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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:11 PM Oct 2012

does ASSad really want a piece of the RAF, Luftwaffe, French: Armée de l'Air and the USAF?

feel froggy, assad? then jump, coward! the organizations listed in my headline are, unlike defenseless civilians, quite capable of applying some serious butt hurt - ask Slobodan Milosavich. Oh, that's right, never mind.

Nato backs Turkey in standoff with Syria

Secretary general says Turkey can rely on Nato solidarity and that 'all necessary plans are in place'

"Obviously Turkey can rely on Nato solidarity," Rasmussen said in advance of a meeting of Nato defense ministers in Brussels. "We have all necessary plans in place to protect and defend Turkey if necessary."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/09/nato-turkey-syria

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does ASSad really want a piece of the RAF, Luftwaffe, French: Armée de l'Air and the USAF? (Original Post) arely staircase Oct 2012 OP
What has Assad done to invoke a NATO invasion attack? nt jody Oct 2012 #1
nobody said he has arely staircase Oct 2012 #2
What NATO member has Assad threatened to peremptorily attack? nt jody Oct 2012 #3
i stand corrected arely staircase Oct 2012 #4
I thought mortar round residue linked the round(s) to NATO member ammunition jody Oct 2012 #5
source? arely staircase Oct 2012 #6
google it nt jody Oct 2012 #7
no i think it would be unfair to you to not give you the opportunity to back up your speculation arely staircase Oct 2012 #8
OK just one and the rest is up to you jody Oct 2012 #10
unnamed source - nice arely staircase Oct 2012 #13
Could it be that Syria apologized to avoid open conflict with Turkey? Countries do get things jody Oct 2012 #15
could be arely staircase Oct 2012 #16
Russia Today? Turborama Oct 2012 #18
Syria admitted its forces shelled Turkey and apologized pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #9
that was nice of them arely staircase Oct 2012 #11
Turkey's deputy prime minister says Syria has admitted it was responsible for the shelling ... pampango Oct 2012 #12
Assad is a boneheaded fool agentS Oct 2012 #14
thanks for the link arely staircase Oct 2012 #17

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
4. i stand corrected
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:54 PM
Oct 2012

he has attacked turkey.

Turkey fires artillery into Syria after shelling

Reuters) - Turkish forces fired across the frontier into Syria on Sunday after a shell launched from Syria landed in Turkey's border town of Akcakale, underlining Ankara's warning that it will respond with force to any violence spilling over into its territory.

It was the fifth consecutive day of Turkish retaliation against incoming bombardment from northern Syria, where President Bashar al-Assad's forces have been battling rebels who control swathes of land close to the Turkish frontier.

The exchanges are the most serious cross-border violence in Syria's revolt against Assad, which began in March last year with protests for reform but has evolved into a civil war with sectarian overtones which threatens to draw in regional powers.

The Syrian shell landed near a plant belonging to the Turkish Grain Board, the Dogan news agency reported, several hundred meters from the center of Akcakale where five civilians were killed on Wednesday in previous Syrian artillery fire.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/08/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE88J0X720121008

so far the turks are handling the murderer on their own. i believe the nato warning is to put him on notice that he is doing this his mortal peril.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
5. I thought mortar round residue linked the round(s) to NATO member ammunition
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:23 PM
Oct 2012

supplied by NATO members to the al Qaeda terrorist operating in Syria?

Perhaps that's wrong but it does leave room for doubt.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
8. no i think it would be unfair to you to not give you the opportunity to back up your speculation
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:34 PM
Oct 2012

again, link? source?

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
13. unnamed source - nice
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

btw the syrian government admitted they did it and apologized (no doubt realizing the existential mistake they made.)

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
15. Could it be that Syria apologized to avoid open conflict with Turkey? Countries do get things
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:51 PM
Oct 2012

wrong as the US did with the terrorist attack in Benghazi.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
16. could be
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:57 PM
Oct 2012

it would certainly be wise of them. given the nato charter which makes an attack on turkey an attack on all members. more likely scenario is they did it, realized they f'd up and started grovelling as they contemplated their mortality. Occam's razor and all. Your theory requires many more factors (speculative ones at that).

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
9. Syria admitted its forces shelled Turkey and apologized
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:38 PM
Oct 2012

The Syrian regime called it a tragic accident.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
11. that was nice of them
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:40 PM
Oct 2012

i guess the thought of syrian skies filled with french mirages tends to focus the mind.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
12. Turkey's deputy prime minister says Syria has admitted it was responsible for the shelling ...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:41 PM
Oct 2012

Mr Atalay, Turkey's deputy prime minister says Syria has admitted it was responsible for the shelling that killed five civilians in Turkey and has formally apologized for the deaths.

He said that Syria has reassured the UN that "such an incident will not occur again".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9585945/Turkey-shells-Syria-live.html

Syrian officials could still come out and deny that they admitted to or apologized for anything, but so far they have not.

agentS

(1,325 posts)
14. Assad is a boneheaded fool
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 08:49 PM
Oct 2012

He can't handle these rebels, and these action will provoke further Turkish/Arab involvement, and it may attract more attention from us.

In the meantime, there is a good interview in Der Spiegal with the Iranian Foreign Minister Salehi. Y'all should read it.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/iranian-foreign-minister-salehi-on-syria-and-nuclear-weapons-a-860015.html

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
17. thanks for the link
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:05 PM
Oct 2012

der speigal does real journalism. I take it the Iranians are rational (enough) actors to know what the consequences for their ally assad better than he does should they f with turkey to the point of a nato response.

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