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Young Nones
Written on October 10, 2012
Its Wednesday night, Truthseekers time for our weekly prayer meeting!
According to a recent Pew research study, the young nones are shaping the political future of this country. These are the young adults who claim no affiliation with an organized religion:
Here is a bit of good news for liberals still sunk in despair after last weeks debate. The outcome of the 2012 election may have just become excruciatingly uncertain, but we now have yet more evidence that in the long term, not even God can save the American right
Of course, we already knew that demographic trends bode ill for the GOP. The party is hugely dependent on white voters, who make up an ever-declining share of the electorate. But it also relies on religious voters at a time when, according to a fascinating new report from the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, the number of religiously unaffiliated Americans has reached an all-time high.
Perhaps the most important finding in the report, Nones on the Rise, is that, for the first time, there are now as many Americans who claim no religion as there are white evangelicals, the backbone of the GOP. Both groups make up about a fifth of the population, and the number of Americans without religion is on track to surpass the born-again population. About a third of adults under 30 dont associate themselves with any faith, compared with only 9 percent of those over 65. This is not, the report suggests, simply a result of a general youthful tendency toward apostasy. [Y]oung adults today are much more likely to be unaffiliated than previous generations were at a similar stage in their lives, it says.
Politically, this is a big deal, because the religiously unaffiliated are as reliably Democratic as white evangelicals are Republican. In 2004 John Kerry won 63 percent of the no religion vote, while four years later Barack Obama won 75 percent. [T]here are roughly twice as many self-described liberals (38%) as conservatives (20%) among the religiously unaffiliated, the report says. Among voters overall, this balance is reversed. Ever since Ronald Reagan came to power in 1980, conservative born-again Christians have had an outsized effect on our politics. We are approaching a point where the nonreligious could be equally influential.
Thats not to say that all of those who reject religious labels are strict rationalists. The report uses the clunky term religiously unaffiliated in order to cover the diversity of views among the cohort its describing. Only 29 percent of them say theyre atheist or agnostic; the rest describe their religion as nothing in particular. Most say that religion isnt particularly important in their lives, but theyre likely to believe in God, and many describe themselves as spiritual.
Still, these are largely secular people, not people whove abandoned Christianity for Eastern mysticism or new-age magic. [T]he unaffiliated are about as likely as Christians to believe in reincarnation, astrology, or the evil eye, the report says. There are exceptions30 percent of the unaffiliated believe in [s]piritual energy located in physical things such as mountains, trees, and crystals, compared with 23 percent of Christians. But overall, this is a group that rejects supernaturalism.
For 30 years, Republicans have deployed an aggressive, bombastic piety to their advantage. Now a changing population is turning the partys social conservatism into a burden.
The growth of this bloc puts Republicans in a bind. Some theorists believe young people are rejecting religious labels precisely theyve become intertwined with reactionary social policies. The report quotes Robert D. Putnam and David E. Campbells book American Grace: How Religion Divides and Unites Us, which argued that as the religious right gained power, young Americans came to view religion as judgmental, homophobic, hypocritical, and too political. And yet, as more secular Americans turn away from the GOP because of its association with the religious right, voters from the religious right will make up a greater and greater share of the party, pushing it to further alienate secularists.
Its the same dynamic thats happening with white voters. Republican Party leaders understand that, eventually, theyll have to reach out to Hispanic voters to survive. But as long as white voters anxious about their declining numbers and cultural influence dominate the GOP, it cant moderate its positions on issues like immigration without risking a revolt from within.
So too with the culture wars. For 30 years, Republicans have deployed an aggressive, bombastic piety to their advantage. Now a changing population is turning the partys social conservatism into a burden it cant shake. You dont have to believe in God to see the cosmic justice in that.
There may be hope for this nation yet.
Hallelujah.
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Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)ralps
(77,749 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)I don't know which way to turn.
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)ralps
(77,749 posts)cal04
(41,505 posts)I sure hope so
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)How are you, Mr. pig and the fuzzies doing tonight? Big s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs for everybody from me and the NJ catz!
ralps
(77,749 posts):awww:
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)ralps
(77,749 posts)upi402
(16,854 posts)lawl
ralps
(77,749 posts)Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)Hi ralps. Hello Everyone.
ralps
(77,749 posts)cal04
(41,505 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)cal04
(41,505 posts)I sure hope Mike is doing this debate
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)ralps
(77,749 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)How are you and the grandbabies doing tonight? Please give them big s and lots of cheek squeezies from me and the NJ catz!
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)cal04
(41,505 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)The kids thank you for the s!
ralps
(77,749 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)We're all ok, thanks! Big s for you and my fuzzy buddy Crook! Please give him lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me and the NJ catz!
ralps
(77,749 posts)Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)I can't look at his mug without thinking how creepy he is.
ralps
(77,749 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Go get'im, Mike!
ralps
(77,749 posts)cal04
(41,505 posts)attack
Go Biden!
cal04
(41,505 posts)you little snot
LOL
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Ryan is a smirking moran. Agh - if I could afford a new TV, I'd put my fist through the one I'm watching
ralps
(77,749 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)He's a totally irritating cartoon character that generates innate feelings of hostility.
ralps
(77,749 posts)at 3-4 times the cost of regular military!
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)She lets No-Lips run on and on and on without challenge.
Note to self: order new TV.
smokey nj
(43,853 posts)ralps
(77,749 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)But Mike's cheering is making me feel better. As is Joe.
ralps
(77,749 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Ugh.
ralps
(77,749 posts)cal04
(41,505 posts)like I knew he would
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)ZAP
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)I'm almost 62 and going blind. I worked for 40 years. Maybe I should just off myself, huh Paul?
(Apologies for excessive use of puke emoticon)
ralps
(77,749 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)with just wanting to throw things around the house when Rmoney/Lyan show their smirks on my TV.
I can't stand either of those bastards.
(another puke emoticon)
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Go for it, Joe.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)(another puke emoticon)
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Thank you, Joe.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Ugh, and another puke
alp227
(32,038 posts)For the past two days I was in hardcore study mode so I missed the show, even church night! Luckily I won podcast trivia. So when I get home from college I will listen to the KTLK 2 hour delay for Mike's play-by-play!
alp227
(32,038 posts)The way he kept hollering "MARTHA!" (for moderator Martha Raddatz) during Ryan's raucous rants, "AMEN!" and some more when Biden repudiated Ryan, and then cut off the audio when the lies were just too much...wow. I hope to get the live commentary this hour up on youtube later tonight.
Usually I can get a tolerable signal of KTLK 1150 (44 kw from Los Angeles at night) in San Jose at night. However for some reason this right wing station out of Klamath Falls, Oregon (KAGO 1150) was interfering too much. Wikipedia says KAGO is 5 kw day, 1 kw night. I guess the engineer at KAGO forgot to turn down the antenna power. The show playing on KAGO sounded like Sean Hannity so I panicked and grabbed my phone and opened iHeartRadio in a heartbeat.
I am doubtful that a 1000 watt station can be heard more than 100 miles at night. I have heard the 5 kw KABC from LA in my area at night, and I live about 350 miles north of LA. So my guess about KAGO is plausible as Klamath is about 375 mi mouth of my city. And I live about 650 miles south of Portland and can pick up a faint signal of 620 KPOJ (10 kw nights) after sunset, but another 620 station 150 miles away and 1 kw fades in and out.
In summer 2006 I visited the Pacific NW including Klamath and Portland, as well as Seattle. Also saw Mt St Helen's. The PNW is beautiful.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Vile jerks