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DTomlinson

(411 posts)
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 05:10 PM Mar 2021

My experience with a conspiracy theorist.

This was a few years ago, but since conspiracy theories seem to be everywhere these days, I thought I might as well share.

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I was at a get-together with some friends, along with a lot of other people I didn't know (friends of friends, family members - that sort of thing). Over the course of a few hours, I ended up talking to someone who was very nice, had a good sense of humor, seemed pretty cool. We were making small talk for a while, some banter back and forth - nothing out of the ordinary.

Anyway, at one point, the conversation got onto history. I think it was my fault. What happened was that I mentioned to this person that I was reading a book about World War II that I thought was fascinating,. This person said, "yeah, it's a shame so many people died, but you have to remember that Hitler was fighting Communists and that he was having real problems with all those Jews."



I was rendered speechless.



But he didn't stop there. He elaborated on his point. "The Jews call themselves the Children of Israel, but they are lying. They're taught to lie. You can't trust anything they say. George Soros and the Rothschilds are collaborating with the Muslims to make white people the minority. You know all this, yes? The media is lying to you, don't believe what they say."

I smiled (to de-escalate the situation), mumbled something about how I had to leave early, and then proceeded to do just that. I apologized to my friends for taking off in a rush, but I didn't feel bad. I just knew I needed to get the hell out of there.

Reflecting on this, what struck me was how calm he was, and how abrupt the transition was from light-hearted banter to vicious anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. He didn't really raise his voice. He even laughed about "how stupid a lot of white people are, digging their own graves by letting the illegals and the Muslims in." There was no change in tone, no anger in his voice. It was very matter-of-fact. I found this utterly chilling.

To this day, this experience haunts me. At least it wasn't a family member or friend.

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My experience with a conspiracy theorist. (Original Post) DTomlinson Mar 2021 OP
What gets to me about people like that is that they assume we're on the same page. johnp3907 Mar 2021 #1
YES. It's both infuriating and horrifying. DTomlinson Mar 2021 #2
I hear you. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #3
I had a friend who conspiracy theory'd himself to death, quite literally ismnotwasm Mar 2021 #4
Faced recently with on balance the same situation mahina Mar 2021 #5
whatever will they do when George Soros passes Skittles Mar 2021 #6
Bill Gates. Archae Mar 2021 #7
Conspiracy theorists are strange. They are simultaneously super confident Azathoth Mar 2021 #8

johnp3907

(3,732 posts)
1. What gets to me about people like that is that they assume we're on the same page.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 05:16 PM
Mar 2021

After talking to us for a while they think “This person seems cool. I can openly talk about ‘the truth’ with them.” It’s very chilling.

ismnotwasm

(42,008 posts)
4. I had a friend who conspiracy theory'd himself to death, quite literally
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 05:40 PM
Mar 2021

He was the type who believed in the “New World Order”, was a vehement antivaxxer and a bigot as well as a misogynist. None of this was apparent in casual conversation, but talk to him more than 15 minutes and hoo boy.

He ended getting a quite treatable form of cancer, and refused any treatment because of “Big Pharma” and distrust of modern medicine. Anyway, his cancer spread and it killed him.

I had stopped interacting with him, but another friend of mine told me he did express regret on his death bed when his “alternative medicine” treatments all failed.

mahina

(17,696 posts)
5. Faced recently with on balance the same situation
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 05:45 PM
Mar 2021

I said “you know that’s crazy, right?”
and excused myself.

Prior to, I have just smiled and excused myself. There’s no point arguing with a bigot. Do you know what else is crazy? I’ve had enough of these conversations that I’m ready for them now. It’s when they caught me totally by surprise that I didn’t disagree. Immediately wished I had.

We have got a find a way to call these people out and make them ashamed. I’m not criticizing your response. I’ve done the exact same thing.


Skittles

(153,193 posts)
6. whatever will they do when George Soros passes
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 06:46 PM
Mar 2021

who is set to take his place in their world as the ultimate boogeyman?

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
8. Conspiracy theorists are strange. They are simultaneously super confident
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 06:55 PM
Mar 2021

about their knowledge of the hidden truth -- to the point where it's a point of pride that everyone else thinks they're crazy -- while also being super insecure and desperate to find validation in other people agreeing with them.

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