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BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:20 PM Oct 2012

I think Biden did a great job articulating the pro-choice Catholic position

Making abortion illegal based on religious belief is flat out unconstitutional. The Catholic position is based on a belief that life begins at conception. We believe that the soul defines a human being, and until the 18th century there was no consensus as to when the soul entered the body with the general belief being it happened at the quickening (this seems to be the position in the Suma Theologica, as well). This idea about the quickening came from traditional Jewish teaching, which I believe most Jews still hold. So to impose a religious belief based on religious doctrine... it has no place in a nation that must respect a plurality of religions as well as the views of the non-religious.

Don't want to get into a big religious brew-ha-ha, but I just want to say that as a Catholic, I'm glad Biden did such a great job explaining the views of a pro-choice Catholic.

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I think Biden did a great job articulating the pro-choice Catholic position (Original Post) BarackTheVote Oct 2012 OP
+100 demosincebirth Oct 2012 #1
Republican Steve Schmidt did an even better job abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #2
I agree, you can't have your cake and eat it too. BarackTheVote Oct 2012 #5
That was his best statement. That's saying a lot because he had so many good ones. AlinPA Oct 2012 #3
The question never should have been asked. abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #4
Biden did a great job. And got Ryan into a trap. nt bluestate10 Oct 2012 #6
He nailed the abortion question..... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #7
yes he did... madrchsod Oct 2012 #8

abumbyanyothername

(2,711 posts)
2. Republican Steve Schmidt did an even better job
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:36 PM
Oct 2012

Although he was quoting the Big Dawg . . .

Abortion should be "Safe, Legal and Rare." Going on to say that anyone who was against abortion had to be for contraception.

Translation: The Catholic Church is suffering from lunacy on this one.

abumbyanyothername

(2,711 posts)
4. The question never should have been asked.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:39 PM
Oct 2012

When she asked how will your personal Catholicism affect you performing your service in government . . .

The appropriate answer is "Not at all. It would be unconstitutional for it to be any other way."

If she wanted to ask about abortion she should have asked about abortion.

Even though I think the Dems won big points on this question.

Wounded Bear

(58,676 posts)
7. He nailed the abortion question.....
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:55 PM
Oct 2012

Have your own personal beliefs, and your religious ones, but don't try to pass laws based on your religious beliefs.

Don't force your religious doctrine on others through legislation.

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