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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho Won the Debate Tonight: Joe Biden Mops the Floor With Paul Ryan ... Seriously, it Was Bad
http://www.policymic.com/articles/16371/who-won-the-debate-tonight-joe-biden-mops-the-floor-with-paul-ryan-seriously-it-was-badWho Won the Debate Tonight: Joe Biden Mops the Floor With Paul Ryan ... Seriously, it Was Bad
Chris Miles
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Who Won the Debate Tonight Joe Biden Mops the Floor With Paul Ryan Seriously it Was Bad
Of course, you cant ever really win a presidential debate. Stay with me here: There is no point system, there are no game rules (and the rules that do exist are constantly broken), and there is no end game. The audience will be split every time, usually down partisan lines.
But on Thursday night Joe Biden mopped the floor with Ryan. Seriously, it was watching a dad lecture his 13-year-old son.
In the only vice presidential debate, Biden completely dominated all facets of the debate from foreign policy, the national debt, taxes, and even social issues like abortion boldly hammering through policy points and the Obama administration's policy decision rationales, and strongly defending his partys stances on the issues.
Republican rival Paul Ryan looked shaky, out of breath, and out of things to say. Many times he looked down at the table, or the floor, or somewhere else it was like he knew every word he was saying was wrong.
Already in the early goings of the debate it was all Biden, who held a fierce, intense, and relentless critique of Paul Ryan and the GOP tickets policies. Ryan looked very much younger, less experienced, and was frequently getting interrupted by Biden as he tried to string together responses.
In one candid moment of the debate, Ryan addressed the vice president saying, "I know you're under duress." He was addressing Obamacare and Medicare, to which Biden responded, "I heard that death panel debate argument from Sarah Palin." BOOM.
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Who Won the Debate Tonight: Joe Biden Mops the Floor With Paul Ryan ... Seriously, it Was Bad (Original Post)
Hissyspit
Oct 2012
OP
patrice
(47,992 posts)1. I'm thinking it was. Just sitting here listing what scored out of my head, no notes, just the points
that worked well enough for me that I can remember them. And I can't think of one thing that Ryan said that stuck with me, maybe it was too global??? I will try harder to see if I can come up with something.
Meanwhile, my list of Biden scores is up to 6 at this point and I was even a little sleepy while listening (I'm more of a morning person) so I would have done better if my brain had been a little brighter.
SunSeeker
(51,584 posts)2. Fuck yeah!
Cha
(297,417 posts)3. "..under duress"? I'll show you Duress, Mf..
In one candid moment of the debate, Ryan addressed the vice president saying, "I know you're under duress." He was addressing Obamacare and Medicare, to which Biden responded, "I heard that death panel debate argument from Sarah Palin." BOOM.
apples and oranges
(1,451 posts)4. and he did it without lies or flopping!
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)5. "I heard that death panel debate argument from Sarah Palin."
BOOM.
NBachers
(17,129 posts)6. Ryan came off like an earnestly grifting time share salesman.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)7. And yet...
Reich wing radio was claiming Ryan won the debate because Joe was so rude. Of course, they didn't say the same about Romney. He won because he was rude.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)8. Kick nt