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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts) Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:59 AM Oct 2012

You know i think that Ryan may have also hurt his 2016 chances after they loose this year.

I know it is early but it is a thought

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You know i think that Ryan may have also hurt his 2016 chances after they loose this year. (Original Post) hrmjustin Oct 2012 OP

i wonder if with the abortion question he was trying to protect his future chances JI7 Oct 2012 #1

Not with the Koch brothers thinking he'll sweep the country to fascism Warpy Oct 2012 #2

Think this performance might hurt him back home this cycle? Moses2SandyKoufax Oct 2012 #3

Yes! I am hoping he loses his House seat in November :) n/t Tx4obama Oct 2012 #6

After the 2008 election Sarah Palin's popularity numbers plummeted back in Alaska. Moses2SandyKoufax Oct 2012 #8

Running for VP on a losing ticket is headed to a place called Whatever Happened To? LuckyStrykes Oct 2012 #4

I thought the same thing LakeErieLiberal Oct 2012 #5

Ryan will be history, forgotten history, after all the shit defacto7 Oct 2012 #7

I'm still wondering why he agreed to take the VP offer. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Oct 2012 #9

Doesn't the Republican Rule of Comebacks apply to past VP candidates? ancianita Oct 2012 #10

Conventional wisdom dictates that the candidate who finishes second Moses2SandyKoufax Oct 2012 #12

I think he solidified with the RW nut fringe, he's probably Raine Oct 2012 #11

He was picked this year to help solidify Mitt's standing with the RW base. Moses2SandyKoufax Oct 2012 #13

If we're lucky, BVictor1 Oct 2012 #14

I don't see him as Presidential. flyguyjake Oct 2012 #15

now he really has to win his house seat madrchsod Oct 2012 #16

lose, lose, lose. The word is "lose"!!! scheming daemons Oct 2012 #17

JI7

(89,259 posts)

1. i wonder if with the abortion question he was trying to protect his future chances

Reply to hrmjustin (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:02 AM

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with the right wing base in the Primary

Warpy

(111,305 posts)

2. Not with the Koch brothers thinking he'll sweep the country to fascism

Reply to hrmjustin (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:02 AM

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when they get him elected in 2016.

Trust me, this is just a rehearsal for that little punk.

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)

3. Think this performance might hurt him back home this cycle?

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:04 AM

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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)

6. Yes! I am hoping he loses his House seat in November :) n/t

Reply to Moses2SandyKoufax (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:29 AM

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Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)

8. After the 2008 election Sarah Palin's popularity numbers plummeted back in Alaska.

Reply to Tx4obama (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:47 AM

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When Alaskans got a closer/different look at her their opinions of her changed. Alaska's population is pretty much the equivalent of a congressional district. Hopefully the people in his district are asking themselves the same questions today.

LuckyStrykes

(115 posts)

4. Running for VP on a losing ticket is headed to a place called Whatever Happened To?

Reply to hrmjustin (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:14 AM

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Joe Kennedy didn't want Jack to get the nomination for Stevenson's VP (JFK did campaign on the floor for it against his fathers wishes) in 1957. Joe knew there was a good chance Stevenson wouldn't win and it would have been a fatal blow to Jack's political future to be on that ticket so early in his career.

Have my fingers crossed that I barely remember Ryan's face, much less name, in 10 years or so.

LakeErieLiberal

(37 posts)

5. I thought the same thing

Reply to hrmjustin (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:25 AM

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Ole' Joe Biden really did a number on the "Paul Ryan Mystique" today. You have to remember that the Very Serious People acted like Joe is a dimwit and that Paul Ryan is a super-wonk who would wipe the floor with Joe Biden. Joe crushed any semblance of the super-wonk like a slushy on the 4th of July.

I mean can you imagine Charles Krauthammer's beffudlement that Paul Ryan got taken school by Loose-lipped Joe Biden??

[link:http://lakeerieliberal.blogspot.com/|

defacto7

(13,485 posts)

7. Ryan will be history, forgotten history, after all the shit

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:36 AM

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he's been dealing himself this campaign. I don;t see him making a comeback of any kind.

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)

9. I'm still wondering why he agreed to take the VP offer. n/t

Reply to defacto7 (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:48 AM

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ancianita

(36,126 posts)

10. Doesn't the Republican Rule of Comebacks apply to past VP candidates?

Reply to hrmjustin (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:49 AM

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Or am I thinking of past presidential candidates?

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)

12. Conventional wisdom dictates that the candidate who finishes second

Reply to ancianita (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:57 AM

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in a given primary will be the GOP's nominee for the next cycle. The past republican VP nominees are: Palin, Cheney, Kemp, Quayle, HW Bush, Dole, Agnew. Only two nominees in the group, and one of them had to wait 20 years to win the nomination (Bob Dole also finished 2nd in the '88 primaries).

Raine

(30,540 posts)

11. I think he solidified with the RW nut fringe, he's probably

Reply to hrmjustin (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:52 AM

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a shoe-in with them.

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)

13. He was picked this year to help solidify Mitt's standing with the RW base.

Reply to Raine (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 03:00 AM

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I still think Bob Portman would have been the better choice.

BVictor1

(229 posts)

14. If we're lucky,

Reply to hrmjustin (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 03:20 AM

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we won't have to worry about Ryan in 2016, especially if he gets voted out his district in November.

Hopefully the people of Wisconsin deliver a double blow.