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Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:11 AM Oct 2012

From Forbes: Ryan Drew Blood Early, Then Cruised to Victory Over Unsteady, Flustered Biden

Complete and utter bullshit article from Forbes.

John Tamny, Forbes Staff - About halfway through last night’s debate between Congressman Paul Ryan and Vice President Joe Biden, the VP’s answers – and his unsteady countenance – revealed someone who felt he’d lost. Biden’s pre-debate spin was that he would enter in attack mode, eager to make up for his boss’s universally panned performance the week before.

The problem for Biden was that Ryan drew blood fairly early, thus making any attacks seem desperate. In that case, wobbly after a few blows from Ryan that he couldn’t effectively answer, Biden’s tone took on a yelling quality; the yelling an attack substitute for substantive points that he was unable to make.

Compare this to Congressman Ryan. Whether viewers agreed with him or not, he seemed bigger than the debate, and his slightly unhinged partner. Whatever the question, Ryan had a quick answer or answers, and replies came in a calm, measured tone.

Even worse for Biden, and one can imagine President Obama cringing from afar, as Ryan scored points, Biden took to laughing in an uncontrollable way. Well aware that he lacked a mind quick enough to respond to the myriad jabs of his more nimble competitor, Biden presumably felt his laughs and smirks would effectively communicate what he couldn’t in terms of words, and well-crafted arguments.

Read the rest at your own risk!
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From Forbes: Ryan Drew Blood Early, Then Cruised to Victory Over Unsteady, Flustered Biden (Original Post) Unknown Beatle Oct 2012 OP
Someone wrote an article about something they dreamed about! mtnester Oct 2012 #1
Guess he did not observe Lyin' Ryan drinking often. Thinkingabout Oct 2012 #2
Must be a conservative who's for legalizing pot jsmirman Oct 2012 #3
Reads like a North Korean state news press release. Moses2SandyKoufax Oct 2012 #4
Now we're getting somewhere! Cha Oct 2012 #6
Good comparison Nancy Waterman Oct 2012 #29
Here's the comment I submitted: Hissyspit Oct 2012 #5
Thanks for submitting, Hissyspit. Cha Oct 2012 #7
John Tamny is a conservative tool... Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #8
There was nothing flustered about Biden treestar Oct 2012 #9
What kind of fuckturdery.... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #10
He really didn't watch the debate... AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #11
I see the Baghdad Bob has found a new gig. trumad Oct 2012 #12
++++10000000! Champion Jack Oct 2012 #18
They JustAnotherGen Oct 2012 #13
He's being blasted by a majority of the commenters: hlthe2b Oct 2012 #14
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ chelsea0011 Oct 2012 #15
It is good to know that these 1%ers make up only 1%. nt. MrYikes Oct 2012 #16
But they know it, too, which is why they need to rig the voting machines. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #28
This only happened in the alternate universe of rightwing rags. ananda Oct 2012 #17
Where did this "Biden ain't too bright" motif come from? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #19
It's the 1% sneering at his working class background. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #25
Ah. Yes, I'm sure there's a correlation between birthplace and brains! *snort* WinkyDink Oct 2012 #27
Must be Backwards World at Forbes. What a moronic article. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #20
Spinning faster than a gyroscope. trof Oct 2012 #21
Straight from the Editor of REAL CLEAR POLITICS magical thyme Oct 2012 #22
"Ryan had quick answers" rurallib Oct 2012 #23
Who knew that the unknown beatle was Bagdad Bob! Marrah_G Oct 2012 #24
Corporate McPravda. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #26
John Tamny: Ryan greatly boosts Romney's odds jsr Oct 2012 #30

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
5. Here's the comment I submitted:
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:24 AM
Oct 2012
This is now officially the stupidest thing I have ever read on the Internet. (Unless it is a parody of egregious spin, in which case it is brilliant.)


Won't be surprised if it does not show up.

Cha

(297,428 posts)
7. Thanks for submitting, Hissyspit.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:31 AM
Oct 2012

I would have thought with a name like "Forbes" they wouldn't want to be known for propaganda that would make Goebbels proud, as they say.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
8. John Tamny is a conservative tool...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:32 AM
Oct 2012

Just read his past articles. He's constantly slamming Obama for the economy, saying he should be booted from office. So, this ain't a surprise. There's always one.

Aviation Pro

(12,179 posts)
10. What kind of fuckturdery....
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:35 AM
Oct 2012

....is this fuckity fuck trying to push?

Was this written before the fucking debate.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
11. He really didn't watch the debate...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:36 AM
Oct 2012

He was probably making his own stuff up... because what he saw was certainly not the same debate I saw. The man must have been watching Ren and Stimpy...


or some other such bizarre program.

JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
13. They
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:51 AM
Oct 2012

Did not watch the same debate I did. Biden spent an hour and a half fact checking. No blood was drawn by Ryan . . . Biden on the other hand invited us to sit down and chat with him.

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
14. He's being blasted by a majority of the commenters:
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:53 AM
Oct 2012
Chas Holman 3 hours ago

Way to go Joe..

It’s about time these guys got some of their nonsense tossed back in their face, and I think it was prudent that you took the role of ‘corrector in chief’ rather than the President this time.

Nice work buddy, thanks for fighting the good fight.


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Anthony Kubiak Anthony Kubiak 3 hours ago

You obviously didn’t actually watch the debate.


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A W A W 2 hours ago

Don’t let Forbes, or the “1 percenters” fool you, you 120 million, “47 percenter”, Seniors and Women voters. And for goodness sake, don’t let these puppet-like, ridiculous Republicans, in the true spirit of George Bush Jr. give you the proverbial “finger”. Ryan not only lost the debate, he was ingloriously, flattened!
Cover your assets, he debated emptier than a toilet paper roll.


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Lee White Lee White 2 hours ago

I couldn’t disagree more, John. Vice President Biden tactfully and emphatically called Ryan on all of the lies, misdirection and simplification he offered. I do agree that it was clear Ryan was stuck promoting economic policies he does not believe in and which he knows don’t stand up to arithmetic (not mathematics, arithmetic).

Furthermore, Biden was the only person on that stage who demonstrated the knowledge and consideration to be the president if needed (save perhaps for Raddatz who also did an excellent job of keeping the two debaters specific).


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Lee White Lee White 2 hours ago

It’s actually quite interesting the author viewed the debate as he did. I suspect he is trying to rewrite history by saying Ryan won. Perhaps he is trying the balance those who see how well Biden performed. Well, as was said recently, John Tamny, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
22. Straight from the Editor of REAL CLEAR POLITICS
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:06 AM
Oct 2012

That's the author's "other job" according to his bio. No bias there. Nuh-uh!

I don't know what debate he was watching. I notice it took him a 3 hours to come up with his story line, though.

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
23. "Ryan had quick answers"
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:21 AM
Oct 2012

just not to questions asked.
ETA - it was like he was marooned on an island somewhere............... like Gilligan's Island

jsr

(7,712 posts)
30. John Tamny: Ryan greatly boosts Romney's odds
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:43 AM
Oct 2012
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/ryan-368273-romney-economic.html

John Tamny: Ryan the safest pick for Romney

... for an election about a sagging economy, no one is better-suited than Ryan when it comes to simplifying what is really quite simple: economic growth. Ryan knows intimately that economic growth is an incredibly basic function of removing the tax, trade, regulatory and monetary barriers to production. Because he does, he was the only choice for Mitt Romney, and his selection greatly boosts Romney's odds versus President Obama on Nov. 6.

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