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Screw the pundits. Joe Won ! Joe Won! Joe won! Don't fall for the rope a dope floating (Original Post) mfcorey1 Oct 2012 OP
I agree.. rainlillie Oct 2012 #1
Importantly, so did uncommitted voters. Marathon Boy was laughable. Coyotl Oct 2012 #15
Ditto! Joe nailed it! MountainMazza Oct 2012 #2
Anyone who watched would agree Berlum Oct 2012 #3
The librul media will not give a win to the Democrats liberal N proud Oct 2012 #4
You can tell who won by their tweets..... Historic NY Oct 2012 #5
'did what he needed to do' Garion_55 Oct 2012 #6
They do not want to see our President get a bump. wisteria Oct 2012 #27
I did not sense a lot of joy in Mudville on the Morning Joe this am. demgrrrll Oct 2012 #7
Main street won this debate momsrule Oct 2012 #8
Anyone who thinks that Joe Biden didn't win that debate YellaDog1950 Oct 2012 #9
Classic double bind and standard trick. n/t proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #20
Rude??? AlbertCat Oct 2012 #29
The polls next week will tell the story ... GOTV Oct 2012 #10
Biden kicked ass, no spin. There's not enough creative editing in the world that will change that. nc4bo Oct 2012 #11
You don't win when you can't vote. Skee Oct 2012 #12
You are way out on another topic. Maybe you should post your own op. mfcorey1 Oct 2012 #13
When You Have No Vote, Your Topic Is Moot Skee Oct 2012 #25
Turned on CNN for a laugh this morning laundry_queen Oct 2012 #14
For a few years CNN has been oldbanjo Oct 2012 #16
I have seen CNN abandon responsible reporting to become nothing more than a Republican shill. olegramps Oct 2012 #17
I try to figure out CNN's strategy, but I still don't get it fugop Oct 2012 #23
I had to turn off MSNBC this morning HeeBGBz Oct 2012 #24
They know that their SPIN is what people (especially the moron undecideds) TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #26
Yep. Who are you going to believe? laundry_queen Oct 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author MadDash Oct 2012 #18
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #19
Joe was great! go west young man Oct 2012 #21
Except for Faux News joefree1 Oct 2012 #22
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
15. Importantly, so did uncommitted voters. Marathon Boy was laughable.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:19 AM
Oct 2012
"Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night's vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner"

CBS News/ October 11, 2012, 11:32 PM
Poll: Biden takes debate over Ryan, uncommitted voters say
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57531059/poll-biden-takes-debate-over-ryan-uncommitted-voters-say/

Analysis by Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Anthony Salvanto, Fred Backus and Lindsey Boerma

Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night's vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner over Mitt Romney's GOP running mate Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., according to an instant poll taken by CBS News.

Of the 431 polled immediately following the debate, 31 percent deemed Ryan the winner, and 19 percent said they felt it was a tie.

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
5. You can tell who won by their tweets.....
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:14 AM
Oct 2012

I miss Jim Lehrer. @NewsHour #debate
— @KarlRove via Twitter for iPhone

Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
6. 'did what he needed to do'
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:48 AM
Oct 2012

thats all the nits on morning joe would say other than mika.

'biden did what he needed to do'

'ryan did what he needed to do'

'the moderator did what she needed to do'

just say 'biden won'

they were so quick to claim romney the winner last time i dont get why they were all mishy mashy mush mouths this morning.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
27. They do not want to see our President get a bump.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:48 AM
Oct 2012

They want to control the perception that this is a horserace and will go down to the wire.

momsrule

(100 posts)
8. Main street won this debate
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:49 AM
Oct 2012

Thanks to Joe Biden and his command of what is true. "FACTS MATTER" reply was so well placed early in the debate. Ryan resorted to weak personal stories whenever he felt the heat, trying to humanize himself I guess. Joe called.him out numerous times. My favorites were on his 'tax cuts' and more troops in Afghanistan plus ending the war in 2014, which Ryan seemed to agree yet disagree somehow. No doubt in my mind Joe won this debate hands down and sent Ryan to his room for lying to the people.

YellaDog1950

(44 posts)
9. Anyone who thinks that Joe Biden didn't win that debate
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:52 AM
Oct 2012

is lying to themselves. It was a clear win for the Vice President.

I have a question. Why was Romney's rude, obnoxious demeanor acceptable and a great win, but the demeanor of the Vice President last night was considered rude and unacceptable? Oh, that's right. Repugnants and their minions talk out of both sides of their mouths.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
29. Rude???
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:00 AM
Oct 2012

What do they think this is? A tea party? (badda bing)

It's a debate! So what if anyone was rude?

"Rude" in this instance is forcefully standing up for your principles and not deferring to what Repugs want. Like "compromise" now apparently means "do what we want".


Besides "He was rude" is a pretty weak and lame meme.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
11. Biden kicked ass, no spin. There's not enough creative editing in the world that will change that.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 08:56 AM
Oct 2012

Joe beat their mutt, stop.

Skee

(61 posts)
12. You don't win when you can't vote.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:09 AM
Oct 2012

It really doesn't matter what the candidate says.

The blackbox doesn't care.

The polls will be adjusted or explained away after the central tabulators determine the 'winners'.

Americans will keep suffering and dying for inhuman corporate greed until they regain representation in government.

Only an outsider candidate would refuse to allow profiteers to rob Americans of basic infrastructure needs.

Americans can prefer sustenance for their quality of life, but that doesn't matter when the 'elections' are conducted by unknown entities.


Who designs, builds, programs, and operates the touchscreen or opscan? When you don't know, you don't know whether your vote is being counted at all.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/story/2012-09-19/electronic-voting-fraud-security/57809062/1

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2012-08-28/computerized-voting-voter-fraud/57381410/1

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/11/1101_041101_election_voting.html


Skee

(61 posts)
25. When You Have No Vote, Your Topic Is Moot
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:33 AM
Oct 2012

The topic is elections and how good it would be for Americans to have real ones.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
14. Turned on CNN for a laugh this morning
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:14 AM
Oct 2012

and was actually surprised that Don Lemon said he watched part of the debate in a bar (I think?) and he said everyone was cheering Biden on, and then he turned on CNN and saw everyone calling it a tie and he was shocked at the 'disconnect'. LOL, I was shocked he said that on the air. I'm sure his higher-ups will be calling him later. Make no mistake, CNN wants to drive people's perceptions of the debate - they are looking to mold their viewers views. They are no longer a news channel.

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
16. For a few years CNN has been
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:40 AM
Oct 2012

looking more like Fox every day. Biden WON, I changed to CNN last night for a few minuets to see their comments. I couldn't believe them.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
17. I have seen CNN abandon responsible reporting to become nothing more than a Republican shill.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:49 AM
Oct 2012

Blitzer is a creep at best. CNN has become as Fair and Balanced as FOX. The majority of the time CNN spews the Republican crapola 24/7 by down playing any criticism of Republicans. Every attack by the Republicans is given top billing without any regard for the facts or allowing any challenge. That they would report that the debate was a tie should convince any person with heartbeat that they have no regard for objective reporting while they have seized every opportunity to criticize Obama's debate performance. It doesn't matter to them that Romney absolutely contradicted everyone of his previous positions. No, their emphasis was to take every opportunity to chastise Obama. The reporting in our Nation has become an absolute disgrace.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
23. I try to figure out CNN's strategy, but I still don't get it
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:23 AM
Oct 2012

Does CNN really think they can woo away Fox viewers? If they'd just try to be an objective news source, or at least a balanced one (not fake balance, with one person from each side spewing away crap and not being called for it), maybe I'd tune in. Instead, I stick to the internet now. I can check out all kinds of news without listening to idiots who discuss themselves ad nauseum instead of discussing the actual news.

HeeBGBz

(7,361 posts)
24. I had to turn off MSNBC this morning
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:32 AM
Oct 2012

They seem to be spinning it for Ryan too, which is total bullshit.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
26. They know that their SPIN is what people (especially the moron undecideds)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:35 AM
Oct 2012

pay attention to--not their own eyes and ears.

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