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around the MSM today. Heads up high Democrats. Stand proud and TRUE BLUE!
rainlillie
(1,095 posts).
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)CBS News/ October 11, 2012, 11:32 PM
Poll: Biden takes debate over Ryan, uncommitted voters say
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57531059/poll-biden-takes-debate-over-ryan-uncommitted-voters-say/
Analysis by Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Anthony Salvanto, Fred Backus and Lindsey Boerma
Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night's vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner over Mitt Romney's GOP running mate Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., according to an instant poll taken by CBS News.
Of the 431 polled immediately following the debate, 31 percent deemed Ryan the winner, and 19 percent said they felt it was a tie.
MountainMazza
(312 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)excepting a RepubliProleMole.
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)It's not what they are paid to do.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)I miss Jim Lehrer. @NewsHour #debate
@KarlRove via Twitter for iPhone
Garion_55
(1,915 posts)thats all the nits on morning joe would say other than mika.
'biden did what he needed to do'
'ryan did what he needed to do'
'the moderator did what she needed to do'
just say 'biden won'
they were so quick to claim romney the winner last time i dont get why they were all mishy mashy mush mouths this morning.
wisteria
(19,581 posts)They want to control the perception that this is a horserace and will go down to the wire.
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)momsrule
(100 posts)Thanks to Joe Biden and his command of what is true. "FACTS MATTER" reply was so well placed early in the debate. Ryan resorted to weak personal stories whenever he felt the heat, trying to humanize himself I guess. Joe called.him out numerous times. My favorites were on his 'tax cuts' and more troops in Afghanistan plus ending the war in 2014, which Ryan seemed to agree yet disagree somehow. No doubt in my mind Joe won this debate hands down and sent Ryan to his room for lying to the people.
YellaDog1950
(44 posts)is lying to themselves. It was a clear win for the Vice President.
I have a question. Why was Romney's rude, obnoxious demeanor acceptable and a great win, but the demeanor of the Vice President last night was considered rude and unacceptable? Oh, that's right. Repugnants and their minions talk out of both sides of their mouths.
proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)What do they think this is? A tea party? (badda bing)
It's a debate! So what if anyone was rude?
"Rude" in this instance is forcefully standing up for your principles and not deferring to what Repugs want. Like "compromise" now apparently means "do what we want".
Besides "He was rude" is a pretty weak and lame meme.
GOTV
(3,759 posts)... and i think it will be a good story (for us)
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Joe beat their mutt, stop.
Skee
(61 posts)It really doesn't matter what the candidate says.
The blackbox doesn't care.
The polls will be adjusted or explained away after the central tabulators determine the 'winners'.
Americans will keep suffering and dying for inhuman corporate greed until they regain representation in government.
Only an outsider candidate would refuse to allow profiteers to rob Americans of basic infrastructure needs.
Americans can prefer sustenance for their quality of life, but that doesn't matter when the 'elections' are conducted by unknown entities.
Who designs, builds, programs, and operates the touchscreen or opscan? When you don't know, you don't know whether your vote is being counted at all.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/story/2012-09-19/electronic-voting-fraud-security/57809062/1
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2012-08-28/computerized-voting-voter-fraud/57381410/1
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/11/1101_041101_election_voting.html
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Skee
(61 posts)The topic is elections and how good it would be for Americans to have real ones.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)and was actually surprised that Don Lemon said he watched part of the debate in a bar (I think?) and he said everyone was cheering Biden on, and then he turned on CNN and saw everyone calling it a tie and he was shocked at the 'disconnect'. LOL, I was shocked he said that on the air. I'm sure his higher-ups will be calling him later. Make no mistake, CNN wants to drive people's perceptions of the debate - they are looking to mold their viewers views. They are no longer a news channel.
oldbanjo
(690 posts)looking more like Fox every day. Biden WON, I changed to CNN last night for a few minuets to see their comments. I couldn't believe them.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Blitzer is a creep at best. CNN has become as Fair and Balanced as FOX. The majority of the time CNN spews the Republican crapola 24/7 by down playing any criticism of Republicans. Every attack by the Republicans is given top billing without any regard for the facts or allowing any challenge. That they would report that the debate was a tie should convince any person with heartbeat that they have no regard for objective reporting while they have seized every opportunity to criticize Obama's debate performance. It doesn't matter to them that Romney absolutely contradicted everyone of his previous positions. No, their emphasis was to take every opportunity to chastise Obama. The reporting in our Nation has become an absolute disgrace.
fugop
(1,828 posts)Does CNN really think they can woo away Fox viewers? If they'd just try to be an objective news source, or at least a balanced one (not fake balance, with one person from each side spewing away crap and not being called for it), maybe I'd tune in. Instead, I stick to the internet now. I can check out all kinds of news without listening to idiots who discuss themselves ad nauseum instead of discussing the actual news.
HeeBGBz
(7,361 posts)They seem to be spinning it for Ryan too, which is total bullshit.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)pay attention to--not their own eyes and ears.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Our corporate shills or your lyin' eyes?
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porphyrian
(18,530 posts)go west young man
(4,856 posts)joefree1
(4,901 posts)I'm hearing that a little rich kid got a spanking last night.