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kpete

(72,005 posts) Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:20 AM Oct 2012

DANA MILLBANKS: Ding Ding Ding - Biden Appropriately ENCOURAGED "OUTRAGE"!

Dana Milbank
Opinion Writer
Biden rattles Ryan

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Many will criticize Biden’s antics on the debate stage: loud guffaws, grimaces, raising his arms and looking heavenward, interjecting with “Oh, God,” and “this is amazing.” But all of the scoffing and incredulity was to an end, and one that Obama would be wise to emulate: It indicated outrage. Biden’s incredulous grins and many putdowns (“bunch of malarkey,” “bunch of stuff,” “Oh, now you’re Jack Kennedy,” “notice, he never answers the question”) rattled Ryan, as measured by his copious water consumption. At one point, Ryan flatly denied a $2 trillion increase in military spending that Romney has touted.

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An indignant Biden accused Ryan and his fellow Republicans in Congress of tanking the economy. “They talk about this Great Recession as if it fell out of the sky, like, ‘oh my goodness, where did it come from?’?” he said, then pointed at Ryan. “It came from this man, voting to put two wars on a credit card, and .?.?. a trillion-dollar taxcut for the very wealthy.”

Raddatz turned to the challenger for a response. “Congressman Ryan?”

After Biden’s barrage, the honorific sounded like an epithet.

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Much more - Dana hits all the main points:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-in-vice-presidential-debate-biden-rattles-ryan/2012/10/12/427cd0c0-1430-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html

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DANA MILLBANKS: Ding Ding Ding - Biden Appropriately ENCOURAGED "OUTRAGE"! (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP

Ahhh, that's 'Mister Ryan' to you, Ms. Moderator. Did you not get the memo? Berlum Oct 2012 #1

I thought Lyin Ryan would wet his LibGranny Oct 2012 #2

"and one that Obama would be wise to emulate" BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #3

Yes--Obama needs to be himself. He can't imitate Joe or anyone else, or TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #4

Obama needs to be more aggressive but Biden's style is not Obama's style. Jennicut Oct 2012 #7

One of the comments to the article that I liked.. nenagh Oct 2012 #5

So Ryan want's to be caused Mr. ....Well let's do just that from now on. Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #6

Berlum

(7,044 posts)

1. Ahhh, that's 'Mister Ryan' to you, Ms. Moderator. Did you not get the memo?

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:22 AM

Oct 2012

Sources: VP debate agreement says Ryan to be called 'mister,' not 'congressman'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021514901

LibGranny

(711 posts)

2. I thought Lyin Ryan would wet his

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:39 AM

Oct 2012

pants after drinking all that water and still having to face Biden! Shoulda!

BumRushDaShow

(129,237 posts)

3. "and one that Obama would be wise to emulate"

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:43 AM

Oct 2012

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

This is complete BULLSHIT. The minute he did this, all hell would come raining down upon him including from the so-called "progressive" media.

There is a middle-ground and that is where they will calibrate to, but Obama is NOT "Biden" nor is he "Clinton" and I sure as hell don't want him to be either. They are who they are.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

4. Yes--Obama needs to be himself. He can't imitate Joe or anyone else, or

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:47 AM

Oct 2012

it will come off wrong and inauthentic. He does need to be more engaged and forceful, maybe, but to put on an act would be a disaster.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)

7. Obama needs to be more aggressive but Biden's style is not Obama's style.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:51 AM

Oct 2012

It doesn't need to be. Obama can bring cooler aggression while Joe can be the fiery attack dog. Obama can be more passionate then he was last time and bring in hard, clear facts. It will also be a Townhall debate and not an argumentative format. I think President Obama will do really well in this style.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)

5. One of the comments to the article that I liked..

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:15 AM

Oct 2012

VPBiden framed the debate: Romney/Ryan vs House Republicans... & their extremism.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)

6. So Ryan want's to be caused Mr. ....Well let's do just that from now on.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:47 AM

Oct 2012

Especially when he's alone or in a small group. He'll be bugged by calling him Mr. Ryan. But when he's in a large group that the public might see...Call him Congressman Ryan. I think that will pi** him off and maybe he will get rid of some of all that water he drank last night. Bet he had to get up a few times during the night. He probably didn't get much sleep. Maybe when he rests up he'll be able to tell us how he's going to pay for all those tax cuts.

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