stand up to him. It's a laughable talking point, imo.

so make up your minds, hypocrits

while Democrats spout the RW meme that everything the President did was a failure.

What the GOP can't stand is anyone who does stand up to them.

when someone stands up to them, they instantly play the victim and project the 'bully' card onto the other party.

The visceral reaction is, and will be: he was calling bullshit on bullshit.

No one's vote will be changed because Joe was too aggressive.

They'd be better off saying they had an off-night and try to forget it.
Instead they are turning up the kerfuffle machine
and putting a spotlight on how weak their VP candidate is.

I'm okay with that.

Romney was/is not a bully.

Got it. Prepared.

and if they don't do well there is something wrong.

silly.

period. Politicians at the national level are sorta like Olympic athletes... meaning, they are the best at what they do (whether you agree with their politics or not). It was obvious, although Ryan is a career politician, that he just doesn't have command of the facts, especially in regards to foreign policy. His biggest mistake of the night was actually being honest about the two stimulus letters that were sent to VP Biden. He should have spun that like any good Olympic-level politician would have.

It's very difficult to debate a professional liar. I believe and hope that he will learn from the experience.

They're just 2 very different types of people. And I think that's one of the reasons why Obama picked Biden over Hillary Clinton. Clinton and Obama are both laidback calm, cool collected type precision debaters whereas Biden is more of in your face style. Obama needed someone to contract his style as his VP not a mirror image. I think Biden has been a great fit for Obama.

To compare Obama to Biden is like comparing a concert with a talented virtuoso soloist vs. a heavy metal concert with a shredding ass guitarists. Both will showcase a very talented performance but in completely different styles.

I think Obama needs to turn the volume up just a bit for his next 2 debates but continue to give us that amazing calm coolcat we've come to know these past 8 years (since we first saw him at the 2004 Convention). If Obama does that he'll win these debates easily!

Let the media spin until they

Or not.

no surprise

and that Ryan is (or appeared to be) a lightweight who is not quite ready for the big leagues (if ever)

Huh.

But the truth is, this is what it looks like when one stands up to a bully. Ever since the repeal of the fairness doctrine, their propaganda machine has grown exponentially and for decades their attack dogs have shouted the ugliest things about us to their brownshirts through the Volksempfängers on a daily basis. The lies and libel thinly veiled as "political satire" has bled out of their machine and pretty much ruined civil public discourse.

Joe stood up for us, all of us, and anybody that doesn't get it never will.

Mitt was a zillion times worse.

a heartbeat away from the Presidency?

who laughs openly in his opponent's face, aggressively puts his hand on his opponent, and gets into a shouting match with him.

...Well last week the democrats were mad about the moderator and this week the republicans are mad at the moderator"

they are conceding that he couldn't defend himself... not even while LYING. These folks call themselves Americans?

they go so far out of their way to appear even-handed that they literally cater to the right wing and GOP. I seriously think it's intentional and the excuse is the one I gave above. Time for all of us to let the media know that we know they helped Bush steal two elections and that we see them trying very hard to prop up a failed political party and their ideology.