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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt The Vice Presidential Debate: Ryan Told 24 Myths In 40 Minutes
At The Vice Presidential Debate: Ryan Told 24 Myths In 40 Minutes
By Igor Volsky
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7) You see, if you reform these programs for my generation, people 54 and below, you can guarantee they dont change for people in or near retirement. Here is how the Romney/Ryan Medicare plan will affect current seniors: 1) by repealing Obamacare, the 16 million seniors receiving preventive benefits without deductibles or co-pays and are saving $3.9 billion on prescription drugs will see a cost increase, 2) premium support will increase premiums for existing beneficiaries as private insurers lure healthier seniors out of the traditional Medicare program, 3) Romney/Ryan would also lower Medicaid spending significantly beginning next year, shifting federal spending to states and beneficiaries, and increasing costs for the 9 million Medicare recipients who are dependent on Medicaid.
8) Obamacare takes $716 billion from Medicare to spend on Obamacare. Ryan is claiming that Obamacare siphons off $716 billion from Medicare, to the detriment of Medicare beneficiaries. In actuality, that money is saved primarily through reducing over-payments to insurance companies under Medicare Advantage, cutting waste fraud and abuse, and eliminating inefficiencies in the system. Ryans budget plan keeps those same cuts, but directs them toward tax cuts for the rich and deficit reduction.
9) And then they put this new Obamacare board in charge of cutting Medicare each and every year in ways that will lead to denied care for current seniors. The Board, or IPAB is tasked with making binding recommendations to Congress for lowering health care spending, should Medicare costs exceed a target growth rate. Congress can accept the savings proposal or implement its own ideas through a super majority. The panels plan will modify payments to providers but it cannot include any recommendation to ration health care, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiums increase Medicare beneficiary cost-sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and co- payments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria (Section 3403 of the ACA). Relying on health care experts rather than politicians to control health care costs has previously attracted bipartisan support and even Ryan himself proposed two IPAB-like structures in a 2009 health plan.
10) 7.4 million seniors are projected to lose their current Medicare Advantage coverage they have. Thats a $3,200 benefit cut. Enrollment is actually projected to increase by 11 percent in Medicare Advantage (MA) in 2013. Since the Affordable Care Act was enacted in 2010, Medicare Advantage premiums have decreased an average of 10 percent and enrollment in these plans has increased 28 percent.
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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/12/1002021/at-the-vice-presidential-debate-ryan-told-24-myths-in-40-minutes/
By Igor Volsky
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7) You see, if you reform these programs for my generation, people 54 and below, you can guarantee they dont change for people in or near retirement. Here is how the Romney/Ryan Medicare plan will affect current seniors: 1) by repealing Obamacare, the 16 million seniors receiving preventive benefits without deductibles or co-pays and are saving $3.9 billion on prescription drugs will see a cost increase, 2) premium support will increase premiums for existing beneficiaries as private insurers lure healthier seniors out of the traditional Medicare program, 3) Romney/Ryan would also lower Medicaid spending significantly beginning next year, shifting federal spending to states and beneficiaries, and increasing costs for the 9 million Medicare recipients who are dependent on Medicaid.
8) Obamacare takes $716 billion from Medicare to spend on Obamacare. Ryan is claiming that Obamacare siphons off $716 billion from Medicare, to the detriment of Medicare beneficiaries. In actuality, that money is saved primarily through reducing over-payments to insurance companies under Medicare Advantage, cutting waste fraud and abuse, and eliminating inefficiencies in the system. Ryans budget plan keeps those same cuts, but directs them toward tax cuts for the rich and deficit reduction.
9) And then they put this new Obamacare board in charge of cutting Medicare each and every year in ways that will lead to denied care for current seniors. The Board, or IPAB is tasked with making binding recommendations to Congress for lowering health care spending, should Medicare costs exceed a target growth rate. Congress can accept the savings proposal or implement its own ideas through a super majority. The panels plan will modify payments to providers but it cannot include any recommendation to ration health care, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiums increase Medicare beneficiary cost-sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and co- payments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria (Section 3403 of the ACA). Relying on health care experts rather than politicians to control health care costs has previously attracted bipartisan support and even Ryan himself proposed two IPAB-like structures in a 2009 health plan.
10) 7.4 million seniors are projected to lose their current Medicare Advantage coverage they have. Thats a $3,200 benefit cut. Enrollment is actually projected to increase by 11 percent in Medicare Advantage (MA) in 2013. Since the Affordable Care Act was enacted in 2010, Medicare Advantage premiums have decreased an average of 10 percent and enrollment in these plans has increased 28 percent.
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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/12/1002021/at-the-vice-presidential-debate-ryan-told-24-myths-in-40-minutes/
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At The Vice Presidential Debate: Ryan Told 24 Myths In 40 Minutes (Original Post)
ProSense
Oct 2012
OP
CrispyQ
(36,487 posts)1. But "Ryan won on style," according to CNN's David Gergen.
I had to turn the TV off when I heard that shit. Really Gergen? And you dare to call yourself a professional political analyst? You don't win a debate on style, you win it on facts & argument.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)2. CNN is an embarrassment. n/t
BumRushDaShow
(129,209 posts)3. K&R and Biden handled his blizzard of lies
and fabrications masterfully.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)4. Kick! n/t