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JohnA1

(67 posts) Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:44 AM Oct 2012

CHRIS JANSEN - MSNBC- No real clear winner.....

Man, just so sad to see this narrative taking hold today rtaher than Bidens clear win, Its disgusting really. Biden cleans Ryans clock and they cant even give him credit. Now I hear that Ryan was calm, cool and presidential while Biden was rude, condescending and unhinged? What the hell were they watching because what I watched last night was an old fashioned ass kicking. It really pisses me off but everyone who watched that debate knows Biden kicked Ryans ass from beginning to end. I think the polls will swing back a bit to Obama thanks to Bidens epic ass kicking last night.

The media sucks!

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CHRIS JANSEN - MSNBC- No real clear winner..... (Original Post) JohnA1 Oct 2012 OP

Malarkey....can't say it enough.... MountainMazza Oct 2012 #1

That statement started my day and made me furious, another news puppet bleats her masters orders flamingdem Oct 2012 #2

What fucking nonsense matt819 Oct 2012 #3

There WAS a clear winner. liberalmuse Oct 2012 #4

Listening now. Ryan sounds like "Alex P. Keaton" from the '80's sitcom Family Ties. Erose999 Oct 2012 #5

I don't watch MSNBC Except for Rachel Sometimes Liberalynn Oct 2012 #6

it's ludicrous. rayn was worse than obama. but obama was "listless" while rayn was "calm" unblock Oct 2012 #7

Yip, the entire contingent of media yakkers (NOT "reporters") are on board with this n/t UTUSN Oct 2012 #8

Wha? City Lights Oct 2012 #9

I do think we are seeing a Horse race.. occupymybrain Oct 2012 #10

It is sad and disgusting marions ghost Oct 2012 #11

Remember, it's only a win if a Republican does it. For Dems, it is just a draw. Jennicut Oct 2012 #12

MountainMazza

(312 posts)

1. Malarkey....can't say it enough....

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:45 AM

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flamingdem

(39,314 posts)

2. That statement started my day and made me furious, another news puppet bleats her masters orders

Reply to JohnA1 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:48 AM

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She is either an idiot or forced to repeat this whopper. Most of the guests counter this narrative but the statement sits there for other MSM sites to use.

Oh let's not allow the Democrats to have a "win"! Oh that Joe Biden is "crazy". No, he was excellent and he won.

matt819

(10,749 posts)

3. What fucking nonsense

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:51 AM

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At least Dems had the decency and integrity to acknowledge their disappointment with Obama in his debate performance.

Republicans and their surrogates lack the same integrity. Ryan doubled down on lies and was schooled by Biden from start to finish. But because Biden smiled too much and interrupted, somehow the debate was "tied."

This is bullshit.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)

4. There WAS a clear winner.

Reply to JohnA1 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:52 AM

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Anyone who saw that debate knows this, and those who are saying it was a "draw" or that Ryan won are lying, plain and simple.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)

5. Listening now. Ryan sounds like "Alex P. Keaton" from the '80's sitcom Family Ties.

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:52 AM

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definitely fighting above his weight class, lol.

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)

6. I don't watch MSNBC Except for Rachel Sometimes

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:52 AM

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I am a Current Girl and everybody there was saying Joe kicked serious ass! I wish Current could get on more cable systerms. I am glad Time Warner carries it here.

unblock

(52,277 posts)

7. it's ludicrous. rayn was worse than obama. but obama was "listless" while rayn was "calm"

Reply to JohnA1 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:52 AM

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meanwhile rmoney was "strong" while biden was "bullying".

ridiculous.

what would it take for the media to spin it differently? if someone told them that obama/biden were actually republicans and rmoney/rayn were actually democrats, THEN obama & biden would be deemed clear winners....

UTUSN

(70,720 posts)

8. Yip, the entire contingent of media yakkers (NOT "reporters") are on board with this n/t

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:53 AM

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City Lights

(25,171 posts)

9. Wha?

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:54 AM

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That's not what your coworkers said last night. You need to stop watching Fux and Cnn, Chris.

occupymybrain

(74 posts)

10. I do think we are seeing a Horse race..

Reply to JohnA1 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:55 AM

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Biden won no doubt, that's why I think it just a horse race for the media. This crap about him being rude etc.. is just Malarkey, and says hey our guy lost but this is how we say it. I watched both debates on PBS and think that was a smart choice b/c hey they need all the help they can get, and I get good coverage of the debate.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)

11. It is sad and disgusting

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Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:01 AM

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Mittsy can easily win by lying.

Biden doesn't "win" no matter how authentic he is & how fake his opponent is.

People who watched it will make up their own minds, I HOPE.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)

12. Remember, it's only a win if a Republican does it. For Dems, it is just a draw.

Reply to JohnA1 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:07 AM

Oct 2012

LOL.

Corporate media at it's best. Judging by a lot of reactions on twitter and Facebook, Joe kicked his butt.
I won't let it get me down because it is obvious what they are doing.
If Biden was the opposite and was in Ryan's position he would have been roasted in the media. It's actually hilarious because it so transparent. If Ryan had dominated the debate the way Joe had the MSM would be preaching that Obama has lost already.

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