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Biden had a good debate - but don't tell me he's a stronger presence, candidate than Barack Obama (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2012 OP
When Obama has his game on, he can't be matched. randome Oct 2012 #1
Fired UP! BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #2
Biden is an incredible support for Obama flamingdem Oct 2012 #3
oh christ, lets not get jealous because Biden showed how it should be done quinnox Oct 2012 #4
don't project that bull on me bigtree Oct 2012 #7
Biden did it Biden's way. Whisp Oct 2012 #14
They are totally different personalities Johonny Oct 2012 #5
They are a truly great team PatSeg Oct 2012 #6
Really, if he held his own against McCain, cilla4progress Oct 2012 #8
Biden teed it up for Obama next week. lapislzi Oct 2012 #9
Not sure I understand the reason for this post. NightOwwl Oct 2012 #10
odd bigtree Oct 2012 #13
I've try to avoid the chicken littler's of DU. NightOwwl Oct 2012 #16
but you have to love the 'little' reminders about who is at the top of the ticket Supersedeas Oct 2012 #18
What Biden HAS done is increased his profile enough to be a viable candidate in 2016 tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #11
yahoo.com surney moneyman Oct 2012 #12
I guess we'll at least stop hearing about CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #15
"Biden saved Obama's job!" crap bigtree Oct 2012 #17
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
4. oh christ, lets not get jealous because Biden showed how it should be done
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:47 PM
Oct 2012

There is no reason to even bring this up in the first place. .

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
7. don't project that bull on me
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:06 PM
Oct 2012

The theme all this week has been that Barack Obama is some kind of soft touch. You don't get to the presidency with a soft touch. President Obama has demonstrated that he's fully capable of taking the fight to his opponent. this is one excellent example of that.

Don't pretend that Joe Biden isn't being elevated this week (by some) to some other league when it comes to fighting back. Let's not forget who actually got us this far.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
14. Biden did it Biden's way.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:01 PM
Oct 2012

I don't see any jealousy just a plain fact that different people have different personalities and different ways of speaking.. etc. etc.

F.F.S.

Obama did well in his debate (contrary to the nonsense spewed out from the idiot media and from the ones that take whatever the media says like a host religious wafer in church) and Biden did well last night. They are both worthy of our support and loyalty and each have their strong points.

Johonny

(20,864 posts)
5. They are totally different personalities
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:54 PM
Oct 2012

had Obama done what Biden it would have been totally out of character we would probably have hated it. I think Biden was chosen as VP exactly because he can be the loud mouth attack dog that says everything you are really thinking but the polite media won't let you actually say bluntly. He is like a smarter more ethical Dick Cheney that is actually right on issues. But the spirit is the same. Cheney got away with not worrying about being "super popular" and throwing red meat to the base (its the base and not the mythical undecided that usually win you elections). Biden is better in that people do actually like him and his comments are not based on a fantasy world that exists only in Dick Cheney and the 18 % Republican bases heads.

Contrast that with Ryan and Palin that are too afraid to actually say base appealing things because they want to remain popular and make money post election. Ryan has had zero up side because he can't actually say all the things he really thinks. He wants to run for president in 4 years. It's not that you need an attack dog VP... but clearly it helps. I think the older running mate that has no real political future like Biden and Cheney will be the model for future elections.

PatSeg

(47,547 posts)
6. They are a truly great team
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:56 PM
Oct 2012

They both have their strengths and they work well together. Its not a contest.

 

NightOwwl

(5,453 posts)
10. Not sure I understand the reason for this post.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:46 PM
Oct 2012

I happen to admire both men.

I think I can remember which one is President, but thanks for the reminder.


bigtree

(86,004 posts)
13. odd
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:57 PM
Oct 2012

. . . there's the video right there of the President's riveting, energetic appearance in Florida and you can't think of a reason for this thread.

Take this post for what you want. It may well serve as a reminder who's at the top of this ticket. That didn't happen by accident. This speech is a good example of the fire that brought Barack Obama to office. Imo, if you don't think some folks here can't use a reminder, you haven't been paying attention.

 

NightOwwl

(5,453 posts)
16. I've try to avoid the chicken littler's of DU.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:27 PM
Oct 2012

Their constant sky is falling attitude gets old fast.

Supersedeas

(20,630 posts)
18. but you have to love the 'little' reminders about who is at the top of the ticket
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 04:49 PM
Oct 2012

a collective/team effort means someone has your back.

Joe showed that and more in a face-to-face confrontation with his opposite number.

Joe's more than qualified to be one heart-beat away.

Obama / Biden -- that's the ticket!

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
15. I guess we'll at least stop hearing about
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:02 PM
Oct 2012

VP Biden stepping aside to give Hillary some prep for 2016.

There's that.



But point taken. We already have the RW and the MSM looking for anything to drive a wedge amongst Democrats. It's annoying to see a few on the Left coming with the "Biden saved Obama's job!" crap that started to jump off last night. They work as a TEAM.

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
17. "Biden saved Obama's job!" crap
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:38 PM
Oct 2012

that's what's gotten under my skin a bit . . . but not necessarily from Duers, tho

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