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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:14 PM Oct 2012

Is Ryan's "Living By Faith" Meme A Signal For Christian Bible Based Government?

Paul Ryan talks about living by his "faith". One could wonder what he means by that were he to be president. Since he is supportive of a NATIONAL amendment on personhood, you could bet that he supports such a Dominionist idea.

Our public laws are NOT congruent with religious and moral laws, even though many laws blend with some religious laws. Mixing church and state is what cause settlers to come to the Americas in the first place. And the necessity of separating religion and government was deemed necessary for our country to survive and progress into the nation that it is.

Plus living by faith is an oxymoron for some ideologue like Ryan. He is after all a cafeteria Catholic or Christian. He only picks what is most convenient to him as a politician. While he wants to shackle half the population with onerous laws, he denies the dictums of Christ in the New Testament. And it is a testament about caring for the sick and elderly and the poor.

If he were true to the entire ideas behind Christianity he would support the "welfare state". Jesus Christ was after all the liberal of all liberals when you look at his message. So to deny that part of the Christian belief system of sharing is absurd and even amoral.

Do we want such a person so hear the presidency itself who in fact believes that punishing the poor is good public policy?
Paul Ryan is schizoid on so many levels it is terrifying.

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Is Ryan's "Living By Faith" Meme A Signal For Christian Bible Based Government? (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Oct 2012 OP
Duh. dchill Oct 2012 #1
Probably not... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #2
Roman Catholic Orthodoxy without DonViejo Oct 2012 #3
"Faith in public life" is a theocratic dog whistle meow2u3 Oct 2012 #4
"Living by faith" is code for Nevernose Oct 2012 #5
At first glance, I read, Lying by Faith. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2012 #6

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
2. Probably not...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

Roman Catholics, even right-wing ones, aren't big on "Bible-based" anything. Sure, they might hold ultra-conservative religious positions, but those are based on "the Church's teachings" (a mixture of Scripture and the interpretations and teachings of RC theologians down through the ages, as endorsed by the Vatican). They're not likely to simply quote proof texts and declare "the Bible says..." as a basis for their beliefs in the way fundamentalists do.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
3. Roman Catholic Orthodoxy without
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:34 PM
Oct 2012

any emphasis on humanity or charity or, for that matter, the words recorded as the prophet Jesus's sermon on the mount.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
4. "Faith in public life" is a theocratic dog whistle
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:36 PM
Oct 2012

So is "living by faith"--that is, forcing everybody else to live by your faith, whether you share that faith or not.

The "faith in public life" is code for "We will legislate our morality and criminalize everything we don't like and make criminals out of those we can't control with fear alone."

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
5. "Living by faith" is code for
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

"I will say and do whatever I have to so can I can get more power, and if that means catering to the rubes or eating $1000 a plate catering with the Kochs, then that's what I'll do. Praise baby Jesus!"

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