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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:11 PM Oct 2012

Why Obama's Got Ohio

from the Atlantic: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/meet-the-ohio-voters-who-are-killing-romneys-campaign/263061/#.UHoL45mlvQc.twitter


Meet the Ohio Voters Who Are Killing Romney's Campaign

MORRISTOWN, Ohio -- This ought to be the place where President Obama's reelection hopes went to die.

In the coal-mining country of Southeastern Ohio, half an hour from the West Virginia border, I expected to find a potent stew of anti-Obama sentiment. This area is the home of the downtrodden Appalachian whites who've never much trusted the president -- but now, thanks to cultural resentments and the coal industry's decline, they're practically in open revolt. Just look at the results of the West Virginia presidential primary: rather than pull the lever for Obama, nearly 40 percent of the state's Democrats cast votes instead for an unknown Texas prison inmate, Keith Judd, who'd managed to get his name on the ballot. As one Democratic elected official told me darkly, this part of the state is "the northernmost extension of the Confederacy."

But in the day I spent criscrossing this rolling green landscape, it wasn't that simple.

I found Fred Chafin in his driveway, leaning against a red pickup truck and sipping a can of Budweiser under a "Dale Earnhardt Jr. Boulevard" sign. "I wish there was somebody else to vote for -- maybe Hillary," the 51-year-old maintenance man said with a laugh. "I'm not really a Republican or a Democrat. I don't know too much about Romney. But if he's for the rich to get richer, I'm not for that."

Chafin said he'd probably vote for Obama. He wished the deficit and unemployment were lower. But the president had, he thought, had a big mess to deal with, and four years probably wasn't enough for anyone to turn that around.

Recent polls have the president winning Ohio -- a state he took by less than 5 points four years ago -- by 8, 9, and even 10 points. It's hard to believe that Obama could actually better his margin from the heady heights of the 2008 campaign, but at this point, that is what he is poised to do. And in talking to voters here, in a region that should have been easy pickings for Romney, I started to understand why that might be the case. When the story of the 2012 election is written, if nothing major changes in the next few weeks, it will be voters like these who doomed Romney's campaign.


read more: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/meet-the-ohio-voters-who-are-killing-romneys-campaign/263061/#.UHoL45mlvQc.twitter


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Why Obama's Got Ohio (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2012 OP
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #1
Are they finally waking up? BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #2
PPP: Obama Up 5 In Ohio bigtree Oct 2012 #4
Yup. BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #5
I sense they feel its about fairness over lying... Historic NY Oct 2012 #3
They may be in a company that forces workers to stand there BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #7
I lived in OH for about 14 yrs. I never thought I'd be reading this. Especially after Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #6
Romney's Executive Management demwing Oct 2012 #8
He was certainly a prick to that Mormon woman who dared to keep her baby. tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #12
In that picture w/ rMoney and the coal miners... backscatter712 Oct 2012 #9
Thanks bigtree..there are a lot of good things in Cha Oct 2012 #10
HAHAHA... "the Muslim side of things" tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #15
this is the untold result of the President's success bigtree Oct 2012 #16
Brilliant Point Out! Cha Oct 2012 #19
In St. Clairsville, Black people are still called n*****s in everyday conversation. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #18
Their "personal characteristics" are whatever rush limburger Cha Oct 2012 #20
Nope. This goes waaaay back before Rush was even born. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #22
I see.. They don't need no stinkin' Cha Oct 2012 #23
UnYawn? Dale's daughter Pray, began her Obama-hate on inauguration night. She started it! Astazia Oct 2012 #21
That was one informative article. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #11
And Ohio= cheezmaka Oct 2012 #13
As long as there are SOME voters who doom his campaign. Preferably MORE than just "some." calimary Oct 2012 #14
bigtree continues to bring the big lumber grantcart Oct 2012 #17
.. and just the right height! flamingdem Oct 2012 #24

BumRushDaShow

(129,017 posts)
5. Yup.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:28 PM
Oct 2012

And the area they are talking about - that coal triangle in WV, OH, and PA... maybe a few really will reconsider.

WV a sad being a Democratic state that refuses to support the Democratic President.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
3. I sense they feel its about fairness over lying...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:19 PM
Oct 2012

those guys in the photos aren't exactly clapping with enthusiasm.

BumRushDaShow

(129,017 posts)
7. They may be in a company that forces workers to stand there
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:30 PM
Oct 2012

at Rmoney events or get docked like that other mining company Rmoney campaigned at. Am sure this group got the word from other miners about this....

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
6. I lived in OH for about 14 yrs. I never thought I'd be reading this. Especially after
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:29 PM
Oct 2012

the teabagging shit storm of 2010. As down as one can get sometimes this is very uplifting. Hopefully it'll hold all the way 'til November.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
8. Romney's Executive Management
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:35 PM
Oct 2012

these guys are labor. Romney is the bastard who comes out once a quarter, takes credit for the work you sweated, fires your pal Joe, or maybe you, then off to the links for a quick 9 holes.

He's a lousy prick, unless you're Mormon, or run a PAC. Everyone knows it.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
9. In that picture w/ rMoney and the coal miners...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:59 PM
Oct 2012

...who IIRC, were required by their boss Robert Murray to take an unpaid day off of work to cheer for rMoney, on pain of termination/blacklisting...

If a video is available, are the coal miners blinking "Gobama!" in Morse code like Vietnam-era POWs?

Cha

(297,240 posts)
10. Thanks bigtree..there are a lot of good things in
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:46 PM
Oct 2012

this article.

Have to point how sad this man is brainwashed good and proper!

Dale Lude, a 76-year-old farmer and retired union trucker, is a staunch Republican who's thoroughly disgusted with Obama. Lude, who raises cattle not far from where he grew up, outside St. Clairsville, thinks the president has trampled the Constitution and dishonored the nation abroad.

"I think we have a person who is the first black being president, and I think he's allowing a lot of his personal characteristics to show through," Lude told me as he finished his lunch at Schlepp's Family Restaurant, his rough hands protruding from the sleeves of the plaid flannel shirt he wore beneath a pair of denim overalls. "I have never been able to understand where he stands, religion-wise. I don't think he's a Christian, and I think he's leaning toward the Muslim side of things."


This is A Classic BRAINWASHING Success Story!

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
15. HAHAHA... "the Muslim side of things"
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:03 AM
Oct 2012

Bet this was one of the same guys who was up in arms about Reverend Wright.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
16. this is the untold result of the President's success
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:07 AM
Oct 2012

. . . in defining Romney early and making it stick; in his campaigning; in his advertising; in the convention; and in his debate with Romney, where his initial response on taxes put the corporatist republican on the defensive and maneuvered him into defending the wealthy, the insurance providers, and corporations, against the interests and concerns of average Americans. Barack Obama deserves almost all of the credit for framing the economic debate against the republicans and Romney, as well -- a remarkable achievement in the face of the struggling economy.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
19. Brilliant Point Out!
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:24 AM
Oct 2012

Yeah, we can't forget all the good work the President's Team has done in this campaign..outstanding summation. Thank you, bigtree.

It's to the O Team's Credit that more aren't brainwashed like the classic Lude.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
18. In St. Clairsville, Black people are still called n*****s in everyday conversation.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:18 AM
Oct 2012

Almost exclusively White, uneducated, lower-middle class at best for the majority of them, except the scattered well-off.

And a great deal of them in Belmont County are on some type or another of government assistance....go figure.


I am willing to bet you Mr. Lude does not personally know even one Black person, but he certainly "knows" what their "personal characteristics" are....whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.

And Schlepp's is a shithole that serves food that would gag a maggot.

Trust me on this one.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
20. Their "personal characteristics" are whatever rush limburger
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:31 AM
Oct 2012

cheezeforbrains tells him it is.

OHIO FOR OBAMA!

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
22. Nope. This goes waaaay back before Rush was even born.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:53 AM
Oct 2012

That little corner of the world is insular, fearful of change, distrustful of outsiders, and infested with casual racism.


Besides the number on their calenders getting bigger, not much has changed there in a hundred years....except those very same people used to all be racist Democrats.

Astazia

(262 posts)
21. UnYawn? Dale's daughter Pray, began her Obama-hate on inauguration night. She started it!
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:44 AM
Oct 2012


Don't forget his wife Quai & son, Cole. n/t

Schlepp's Family Restaurant! (still laughing)

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
11. That was one informative article.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

It was also sad. Some people just cannot think for themselves. Those are the ones the GOP manipulates with lies and hate.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
14. As long as there are SOME voters who doom his campaign. Preferably MORE than just "some."
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:02 AM
Oct 2012

I'll take 'em from ANYWHERE. As long as it gets Obama another four years in the Oval Office.

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