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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA year after the revolution, Libya is controlled by squabbling militias
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/world/africa/libyan-government-struggles-to-rein-in-powerful-militias.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20121014New York Times article:
BENGHAZI, Libya A month after the killing of the American ambassador ignited a public outcry for civilian control of Libyas fractious militias, that hope has been all but lost in a tangle of grudges, rivalries and egos.
Scores of disparate militias remain Libyas only effective police force but have stubbornly resisted government control, a dynamic that is making it difficult for either the Libyan authorities or the United States to catch the attackers who killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.
Shocked by that assault, tens of thousands of people filled the streets last month to demand the dismantling of all the militias. But the countrys interim president, Mohamed Magariaf, warned them to back off as leaders of the largest brigades threatened to cut off the vital services they provide, like patrolling the borders and putting out fires.
We feel hurt, we feel underappreciated, said Ismail el-Salabi, one of several brigade leaders who warned that public security had deteriorated because their forces had pulled back.
Taming the militias has been the threshold test of Libyas attempt to build a democracy after four decades of dictatorship under Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi. But how to bring them to heel while depending on them for security has eluded the weak transitional government, trapping Libya in a state of lawlessness.
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Good, informative article, worth reading all of it.
dkf
(37,305 posts)Ansar al-Sharia, the Libyan Islamist militia publicly blamed for the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi last month, has disappeared from the city's streets. Not all locals are happy about that.
But to Fadya Bargathi at Benghazi's El Jala hospital, the designated culprits in the consulate attack are something else: saviors.
Before Ansar al-Shariah took over security here our lives were hell, says Ms. Bargathi, a hospital administrator. People would walk in and out of the hospital with their weapons, and if they didnt get treatment immediately they would put a gun to a doctors head.
The story of Jala hospital and Ansar's role in restoring order there captures the chaos of post-Qaddafi Libya. Militias, some Islamist, some not, are frequently the first line of security, other times the threat themselves.
Ansar al-Sharia is alleged to have been both. While many in Benghazi are skeptical the group ordered the attack on the US consulate, and see them more likely as a convenient scapegoat, US and Libyan officials have been pointing in their direction.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2012/1012/In-Benghazi-militias-may-promote-security-one-day-threaten-it-the-next
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)I guess they need the rest after driving off the black Africans.
msongs
(67,413 posts)Igel
(35,317 posts)There are some differences.
One was that Qaddhafi didn't forcibly mix tribes and ethnicities like Saddam did. Saddam pursued the Ottoman policy of encouraging or just relocating people. So Libya, apart from large cities, are large tribal blocks. Probably there's some tribalism in the cities, but Saddam had a pro-tribal policy and encouraged highlighting tribal affiliations after education and urbanism had eroded them for decades. That led to attempts at ethnic cleansing in Iraq and a struggle to prevent it.
Another is that the central government isn't insisting on imposing central top-down control. So there's no local power struggle, locals vs federal power.
And the third is that there are no outsiders to shift all the blame on. Given the choice of blaming foreigners ("outsiders" or fellow Libyans, it's better to blame outsiders for everything from birth defects to bad tasting water to a village outbreak of scabies.
Tribe only trumps nation when it matters. If it's painless, it's like students in my class. They have no strenuous objection to seeing good things happen to others as long as it doesn't hurt them or require any action on their part. (This they generously call "empathy." I call it "just this side of clinical sociopathy".)