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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould someone please be honest with me as I've been purposefully out of the loop....
I'll admit it; like many others, after the 1st Presidential debate I was worried because the press and the polls were all "Oooooh Mitt's hot right now. I wonder if he has a boyfriend?"
I decided that the heart palpitations weren't worth it and starting the following Monday I went on a news / internet blackout. I EVEN FORGOT ABOUT THE VP DEBATE! Now, I have been gently weaning myself back in to the fray. I am SO HOPING THINGS are better after the last news cycle. Here's what I gather:
1. The October 5 jobs report hasn't been as big a story as "Dazzling Mitt," but it hasn't been forgotten either. It appears to me that, as the fog of the debate cleared, the jobs report story did indeed help because some headlines indicated as such.
2. Even though Mitt closed a large gap, the swing state polls finally leveled out to show that, indeed, mitt gained, but the President didn't lose any ground.
3. I still have been too afraid to take a stroll outside the liberal bubble and see, but it appears that the VP debate was a knock-down-drag-out with Joe left standing AND that the general consensus is that Joe cleaned his clock AND that the immediate aftermath is that President Obama got a bump from it. I realize it's too early to tell about the VP debate right now, but that is the general feeling.
4. I am ashamed to say I just found out about "Sensata" but I don't understand its significance.
SO.....I am holding my breath and gulping as I ask these questions:
1. Please as honestly as you can, tell me that if I were to travel outside of TPMdailykossDUrawstory land, will I find the above conclusions to be the general message in the MSM, or have they completely abandoned the President, OR is it too soon to tell? 2. Was the VP debate good for us? Was that also the general consensus in the press and in the Twittersphere? 3. Is Sensata a thing in the real world yet?
Thanks, DU.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)1. I travel as far as Nate Silver. He's not panicked.
2. Debate seems to have been good for us, if for no other reason to restore morale on our side.
3. I don't see Sensata as an issue as Romney has been gone from Bain. Might hurt around the edges but it's not an October surprise. IMHO.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)blogslut
(38,001 posts)The press loves drama and conflict and when there's none, they will manufacture it. I think they went overboard with the first Obama/Romney debate as well as the Biden/Ryan debate. If they make a big deal out of the Sensata story, it will only be because they think it will garner ratings.
Go. Out into the real world and talk to people.
Indep2992
(119 posts)They decided to spin the whole thing. Obviously it matters.
DailyKo put it best - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/14/1144354/-STORY-Romney-Founded-Bain-Bain-Is-Still-Bain-On-11-5-12-Bain-Is-Selling-US-Jobs-To-China
For the entire story see this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1531540
Buddaman
(503 posts)BO will put 'em on the mat on the 3rd round of the debate .....All is well....Keep the Faith
Iggy
(1,418 posts)to the outcome of POTUS elections.
at the most, they fire up the base, not much more. at the least, they are entertainment.
IMHO, Obama blew it in a number of ways in the first debate. all of the howling about Rmoney's
lies or MISinformation are mostly irrelevant. the GOP is not know for telling the truth or facing
facts.
Keep in mind many voters outside of Bloggo world are just starting to pay attention to the election.
if they are GOP'ers or so called "independents" leaning that way-- Rmoney's performance was great
for them. Rmoney was very well prepared and hit the main points he needed to hit-- several times.
again, substance doesn't matter to numerous GOP'ers. if it DID matter, they would not be
republicans in the first place