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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:27 PM Oct 2012

How will you change your life if Mitt "wins?"

I have been thinking of this for some time. We will likely take retirement sooner rather than later - and with less than we planned - so as to get something, because after paying into Social Security for 40+ years, we better get it now. Mitt and Ayn Rand Ryan will destroy it as soon as possible, and that includes those at 55, or even 60. Those under that will have nothing when they are done with that. For younger people, or women who hope to control their bodies, or gay couples who hope for equity, I cannot imagine what will come.

At any rate, we will accelerate plans. What about you?

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How will you change your life if Mitt "wins?" (Original Post) Faygo Kid Oct 2012 OP
Downsize to absolute minimum because republican "austerity" id going to hurt Hoyt Oct 2012 #1
I would apply for duel citizenship--- goclark Oct 2012 #2
Just keep pluckin' along Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #3
I'll become a Canadian. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #4
Move to Canada landolfi Oct 2012 #5
Didn't Seamus the dog move to Canada, too? aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #41
Lmao!! are you being serious?? did that dog reallt run away darkangel218 Oct 2012 #57
Forbes magazine article aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #87
I'll probably push for a medboard Risen Demon Oct 2012 #6
He won't win. President Obama will win. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #7
+1 hrmjustin Oct 2012 #11
I am glad you wont have to. Because BO will win. Doodler71 Oct 2012 #28
I wouldn't be able to take the unctuous Prince Smarming on my TV screen aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #8
exactly what I did during the dhill926 Oct 2012 #78
I'm retired now... Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #9
Move to Costa Rica or France ErikJ Oct 2012 #10
Buy more ammo. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #12
I will become a Mormon. Go along to get along. libguard Oct 2012 #13
I'd join just to monkeywrench the church from within. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #36
Cut back on spending Dirty Socialist Oct 2012 #14
Hide as best I can and hope for better days, they call it "hunkering down" around here. 1-Old-Man Oct 2012 #15
Take early retirement in order to lock in funds--we hope. bklyncowgirl Oct 2012 #16
I can't plan. I have no idea what Mitt would do. NashvilleLefty Oct 2012 #17
Which Mitt? Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #18
That is indeed the question Iris Oct 2012 #47
As a military guy... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #19
If you mean wars, then you're correct. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #25
Only if you own a large corporation. tabasco Oct 2012 #58
Yes yes... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #60
Really? tabasco Oct 2012 #65
I'll break it down to you "11B" style... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #70
Are you insinuating that infantrymen are stupid? tabasco Oct 2012 #89
Lighten up Francis... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #90
Sounds like you're billh58 Oct 2012 #68
Where did I say I was eager? Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #69
Enjoy your stay at DU... (n/t) billh58 Oct 2012 #72
My sympathies. Bucky Oct 2012 #62
Probably... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #71
All G. W. Bush Neocons are waiting to move back in... lib2DaBone Oct 2012 #20
Don't waste time thinking about it: GOTV FSogol Oct 2012 #21
Screw Pessimism! MineralMan Oct 2012 #22
I'm with that... marions ghost Oct 2012 #24
Here's what would change in my life flyguyjake Oct 2012 #23
Excellent post. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #26
Everything you said Politicub Oct 2012 #27
Exactly! JB126 Oct 2012 #29
Great post. Your post ecstatic Oct 2012 #74
we will stop him in the senate larkrake Oct 2012 #30
Unless the senate changes hands, I doubt much will change Shrek Oct 2012 #31
I would stop spending. jackbenimble Oct 2012 #32
I will hope the money will start flowing again. MrSlayer Oct 2012 #33
If Romney is elected, RebelOne Oct 2012 #34
This puzzles me. jackbenimble Oct 2012 #37
I agree Mz Pip Oct 2012 #39
I would get the fuck outta my purple state demwing Oct 2012 #35
Move to Canada. elleng Oct 2012 #38
I have no idea Marrah_G Oct 2012 #40
I won't be able to afford my medication sakabatou Oct 2012 #42
Me too! ruffburr Oct 2012 #53
It's not about me changing my life, it's how "they'd" change my life...nt fadedrose Oct 2012 #43
Bingo. Dead on. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #51
My life wouldn't change in the slightest. I'll still get up at the same time. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #44
If so, you are truly lucky. Ms. Toad Oct 2012 #45
Wow. Thanks for posting that. Faygo Kid Oct 2012 #50
I plan to retire next April B Calm Oct 2012 #46
Sadly probably not much, but I hope it doesn't happen regardless davidpdx Oct 2012 #48
Same thing I do every time a Republican is President. Move my 401(k) out of the market. n/t ieoeja Oct 2012 #49
I work at HUD and Romney has vowed to abolish the agency. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2012 #52
A report today said that Romney/Ryan Vouchercare HeiressofBickworth Oct 2012 #54
I was thinking the same thing about retiring now vs. later. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2012 #55
My business will be ruined....again. louis-t Oct 2012 #56
become a cannibal...... kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #59
I'll roll with the punches. I won't abandon my country to the jackanapes. I'll organize. Bucky Oct 2012 #61
Backwoods. Guns, and a compound quinnox Oct 2012 #63
I'll probably see my retirement accounts tank like I saw in 2008. Obama saved my catbyte Oct 2012 #64
I will need to brush up my spanish quaker bill Oct 2012 #66
My husband has dual citizenship with UK - TBF Oct 2012 #67
Won't really change much. bigwillq Oct 2012 #73
Move Hobo Oct 2012 #75
I'd be out in the streets more pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #76
I'll just keep on chuggin', just like I did during Dimson's reign. muntrv Oct 2012 #77
Stop watching MSNBC Mponti Oct 2012 #79
If Romney won we would all be the dog on the roof. Justpat Oct 2012 #80
Pray to the FSM that my SSI doesn't get cut. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #81
I will spend my days wondering arboretum Oct 2012 #82
I'm trying to be optimistic about our President's re-election corneliamcgillicutty Oct 2012 #83
I'll have to go back on antidepressants for one thing Nevernose Oct 2012 #84
Wonder GitRDun Oct 2012 #85
I'd probably get into much more fistfights and brawls. Great Caesars Ghost Oct 2012 #86
Making plans to move to Canada. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #88
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Downsize to absolute minimum because republican "austerity" id going to hurt
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:32 PM
Oct 2012

a lot of good folks.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
2. I would apply for duel citizenship---
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:32 PM
Oct 2012

Canada would be my resting place until they get that clown out of office!

landolfi

(234 posts)
5. Move to Canada
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

It's just a matter of deciding on a city I can live in for 3 years, but probably Windsor. (An added bonus would be having a wider selection of hockey games on TV to choose from on any given night.) If R$ gets elected I will lose all faith in the American people. Fortunately, I do have faith in them now.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
41. Didn't Seamus the dog move to Canada, too?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:40 PM
Oct 2012

I seem to recall that the dog ran away from Mitt when the family got to Canada, never to be heard from again.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
57. Lmao!! are you being serious?? did that dog reallt run away
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:49 PM
Oct 2012

When they got there? Poor pooch!!

If its true, its pretty freaking awesome! Better stray than abused!!!

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
87. Forbes magazine article
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:18 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/02/01/did-romneys-dog-run-away-when-it-got-to-canada/

"...One of the things Mitt Romney is famous for, along with inventing Obamacare and paying taxes at a very low rate, is driving to Canada with his pet dog strapped to the top of the car. We now hear that when dog and car reached Canada, the dog ran away, understandably. ..."

Risen Demon

(199 posts)
6. I'll probably push for a medboard
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:39 PM
Oct 2012

Since Darth Cheney is one of his key advisors, Rmoney will probably be talked into an invasion of Iran or Syria.

The bone spurs in my right foot keep me from running or walking long distances anyways.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
8. I wouldn't be able to take the unctuous Prince Smarming on my TV screen
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:41 PM
Oct 2012

The sound of his voice, his giddy mortician's demeanor, and his lip smacking make me ill. I'd have to cut down on my TV viewing and get my news mainly online.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
9. I'm retired now...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:42 PM
Oct 2012

so my own life won't change much. Like you I feel badly for the 40 plus set. My children are 33 and soon to be 30 but they should be fine. No education debt and good jobs that can't be out sourced. I feel so badly for the women who are and will be of child-bearing age...until the rethugs over-play their hand and the country takes a hard left turn again. All politics are cyclical and I think we are closer to the end of the right turn cycle than one may imagine....I think the wing nuts have pushed it too far and too hard in the past couple of years.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
10. Move to Costa Rica or France
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:46 PM
Oct 2012

I'm thinking of it anyway but I would for sure and much sooner if Ronmney wins.

 

libguard

(40 posts)
13. I will become a Mormon. Go along to get along.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:04 PM
Oct 2012

Almost made the mistake to move with my company to Utah, Mormon central. Would have protested Cheney speech, and been blackballed. No man shall eat, save those that capitulate to their new masters.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
16. Take early retirement in order to lock in funds--we hope.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:43 PM
Oct 2012

I would also consider buying property, a few acres which we can buy outright, homestead and leave to our daughter. It's going to get ugly.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
58. Only if you own a large corporation.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:59 PM
Oct 2012

If you're a grunt, you won't get shit except lose benefits. I was in the infantry under three presidents. Reagan and Bush gave rich fucks Star Wars. Clinton gave us machine guns and new boots.

Obama has given the VA more than any president in history.

Your post indicates a lack of critical thinking ability.

Why don't you give this lady a kiss?







 

Lightbulb_on

(315 posts)
60. Yes yes...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:11 PM
Oct 2012

Apply some yourself...

I think that Romney would take a more aggressive and militaristic approach to world affairs and I will likely be involved in it. More missions, means more "stuff"... As an active duty guy, I'm talking about my day to day requirements and am not referring to post-service benefits.

Kiss her yourself.. She seems lonely...

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
65. Really?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:26 PM
Oct 2012

Airborne Ranger with a CIB here.

I never referred to missions as "get more stuff." You should attempt to communicate more clearly. It's important in the military.

 

Lightbulb_on

(315 posts)
70. I'll break it down to you "11B" style...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:41 PM
Oct 2012

More missions and new missions, means more requirements, means more resources and funding to get more items needed to accomplish that mission.

IOW, they don't mean the same thing but one comes about as a result of the other.

I realize that much of the logistic and procurement part of planning doesn't apply to the average Joe in a squad but it is an essential part of the process for the command.

If we are going to location X and we need to accomplish Y, we are going to need A,B and C. We already have A but I'll need more B and a way to purchase C because we have never bought any before. See?

 

Lightbulb_on

(315 posts)
90. Lighten up Francis...
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:29 PM
Oct 2012


I'm just yankin' your chain...

I've got some former 11Bs and their sense of humor is much better than yours. What happened?

billh58

(6,635 posts)
68. Sounds like you're
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:29 PM
Oct 2012

eager for a new, more militaristic, CIC. That approach worked really well during the 8-year disaster under "I am the decider" Dubya didn't it?

 

Lightbulb_on

(315 posts)
69. Where did I say I was eager?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:35 PM
Oct 2012

I simply predicted what the outcome would be if Romney were to become President.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
22. Screw Pessimism!
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:49 PM
Oct 2012

Obama will win. I'm planning to spend the next four years with Barack Obama as the President.

You can do as you please.

GOTV 2012!

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
24. I'm with that...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:37 PM
Oct 2012

The alternative is too terrible to contemplate, esp since if Mitt R Money "wins" it will mean that the election's been stolen again. Democracy will be DOA.

Not that we should never contemplate it, but it's premature & unproductive right now. No need to sow the seeds of doubt and fear. Time for work and expectation of success.

I'll say one thing, I don't think I could cheerfully proceed as usual. I might have to rethink my life's direction. This election is critical to everything I care about.

GOTV

 

flyguyjake

(492 posts)
23. Here's what would change in my life
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:47 PM
Oct 2012

1) If Romney changes the constitution as he's promised to ban gay marriage forever. I won't be able to marry.
2) If Romney repeals Obamacare as he's promised, I won't be able to afford health insurance.
3) If Romney is successful in passing this 20% tax cut, I will loose home owner deductions and many other deductions I count on.
4) If Romney is successful in banning abortion except in "forcible rape" then my sister will loose birth control & planned parenthood.
5) If Romney turns Medicare into the voucher system he's promised, then I won't have the medicare my Grandparents & Great Grandparents counted on.
6) If Romney privatizes Social Security & Medicare as promised, neither programs will be there for me when I retire.
7) If Romney goes to war with Iran, Syria & Egypt as he's promised, God help us ALL! WWIII will be here sooner than you know it.

That's what's important to me.

Shrek

(3,981 posts)
31. Unless the senate changes hands, I doubt much will change
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:50 PM
Oct 2012

I imagine we'd be in for a whole lot of gridlock.

jackbenimble

(251 posts)
32. I would stop spending.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:51 PM
Oct 2012

I would save every dime I could get my hands on. Which obviously wouldn't be a good thing for the economy but if the current wave of rethugs come into control we will all need to stop spending as much and start saving because there wont be anymore safety net to help a person out in hard times if they have their way. It would be wise to have your own safety net.

rmoney just wants to be president because that's what his daddy wanted but didn't achieve. He has basically sold his soul to the ultra rich rethuglicans to make that happen (think koch). I doubt he cares about anything except winning the game. So if they help him win they will cash in on the favor in any and every way they can.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
33. I will hope the money will start flowing again.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:52 PM
Oct 2012

Because really, it can't be much worse under him than it is for me now. I'm out of work for fifteen straight months now and have only worked for twenty of the forty four that President Obama has been in office. It's been horrible for me and my industry. I know it's not Obama's fault that the congress won't let him do anything but that doesn't make it suck any less.

If Romney somehow wins I hope the richie rich assholes will stop striking and start building things again.

I doubt I'll be changing much. I'll probably save more for the next rainy day that will surely be coming in a few years. If I'm fortunate enough to get back to work.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
34. If Romney is elected,
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:55 PM
Oct 2012

I would love to leave the country. I am already collecting social security and could no† afford to live in another country on the pittance that SS pays.

jackbenimble

(251 posts)
37. This puzzles me.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:12 PM
Oct 2012

Why would you leave your country because of a temporary elected leader? I would never consider leaving my country because I don't like who is in the oval office. To do so would be like handing over my heritage to my enemy.

Not directed at you in particular RebelOne, but anyone who says they would leave probably should. And I would hope they would not come back when things were more favorable since they aren't willing to stay with the rest of us and fight for whats right.

Mz Pip

(27,449 posts)
39. I agree
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:25 PM
Oct 2012

This too shall pass. It will suck like Budh sucked but I refuse to be driven out of the country by the likes of Mitwit.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
35. I would get the fuck outta my purple state
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:58 PM
Oct 2012

and find the bluest state imaginable, like Vermont, New Mexico, or California, start or join an underground economy, then begin working toward taking the house back in 2014.

I'm getting too old for this shit...but what choices do we have? I would rather die being a spur in the asses of corporatism and conservatism than live as a subject to fuckers like Romney.

sakabatou

(42,152 posts)
42. I won't be able to afford my medication
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

Which means I might die who knows when after 1 week. I'll be hungry and won't be able to afford necessities.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
44. My life wouldn't change in the slightest. I'll still get up at the same time.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:01 AM
Oct 2012

I'll still go to bed at the same time. I'll still work the same number of hours each week.

I'll shop at the same stores. I'll drink with the same friends.

This, too, shall pass.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
45. If so, you are truly lucky.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:46 AM
Oct 2012

Last edited Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:04 PM - Edit history (1)

For our family it is a matter of life and death.

If Romney is elected, the Affordable Care Act will likely soon be history. We will spend down all our savings on insurance premiums to ensure our daughter has access to health care - and I will be working long past when I expected to be able to retire, because it will be a choice between earning the $18,000 extra to pay for her insurance premiums and forcing her into poverty so she is eligible for SSI. (Her medical care costs $40-$60,000/year in a good year).

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
50. Wow. Thanks for posting that.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

Let's keep our fingers crossed.

With GOP governors running Ohio, Florida and Virginia, that may be all we have left.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
46. I plan to retire next April
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:38 AM
Oct 2012

despite who wins. Getting the ball and chain off my ankle at age 62 and hopefully I will live a nice long retirement. They say people who retire early, live on average 5 years longer than people who work to 66 years old.

Like you, I worry Mitt and company will destroy the social safety nets.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
48. Sadly probably not much, but I hope it doesn't happen regardless
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:05 AM
Oct 2012

I live overseas in South Korea and am a permanent resident here. Every two years I go home for a visit. I have a bank account and mail forwarding in my home state. Right now I'm going to school (have about 3 more years for my doctorate, with just over 2 completed) and I have massive amounts of student loans. Now the only up side is I don't plan on paying them (maybe some but not all). I'd likely die before then anyway. After being here a few years I pretty much decided I'd never go back except to visit. The healthcare is much better here as is he public transportation. Granted there are some downsides, but given I'm married and have Korean family it's not too bad.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
52. I work at HUD and Romney has vowed to abolish the agency.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:42 PM
Oct 2012

The saddest thing? His father was the head of HUD back in the early 70s and appeared to devote his life to the poor and disadvantaged. His son is an evil, despicable human being.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
54. A report today said that Romney/Ryan Vouchercare
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:45 PM
Oct 2012

would result in an additional $200 a month for seniors paying for Medicare. If that happens, I will be spending time searching the reaches of MY ASS looking for that money 'cause that's where it would have to come from as there is no other money available.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
55. I was thinking the same thing about retiring now vs. later.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 06:46 PM
Oct 2012

I might even qualify for disability, which would give me healthcare coverage.

Bucky

(54,014 posts)
61. I'll roll with the punches. I won't abandon my country to the jackanapes. I'll organize.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:19 PM
Oct 2012

As a teacher I reckon I could foresee a cut in pay as EdD programs get cut and the district has to reprioritize the budget. But I'm 10 years from full retirement, so I don't think big lifestyle changes will be rolling down the pike at me.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
63. Backwoods. Guns, and a compound
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:24 PM
Oct 2012

I'll be hiding out prepared for the end of days, yes sir.

But seriously, I'll hope the Dems can block Romney in the senate, and hope
Mitt turns out to be a moderate that pisses off the conservatives.

I kinda doubt that he is telling the truth about his conservative "transformation".

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
64. I'll probably see my retirement accounts tank like I saw in 2008. Obama saved my
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:24 PM
Oct 2012

TIAA-CREFF account. I was looking at putting off retirement for 7-10 years and I am worried the same thing will happen under Romney. Why not? Romney/Ryan is nothing but Shrub on steroids, so my retirement will vanish in 4 years instead of 8. Oh, goody. And even though I am 57 and supposedly "safe", I am sure my SS & Medicare will vanish. My husband will probably lose his Medicaid that is helping pay for his nursing home, which will either devastate us financially or will force us to divorce after almost 30 years of marriage. Grim, grim, grim.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
76. I'd be out in the streets more
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:01 PM
Oct 2012

I've protested with Occupy L.A., but if we ever were to be saddled with Romney as President, I expect that I'd have occasion to get out in the streets a hell of a lot more.

Mponti

(163 posts)
79. Stop watching MSNBC
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:06 PM
Oct 2012

If Obama loses, I will hold Mathews, Maddow, Schulz et al responsible for their hysterical post debate, non-stop babble. They helped paint Obama as a loser

 

arboretum

(27 posts)
82. I will spend my days wondering
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:25 PM
Oct 2012

How a millionaire whipped a millionaire. How the upper crust whipped the upper crust. It's inconceivable.

83. I'm trying to be optimistic about our President's re-election
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:28 PM
Oct 2012

Because the very thought of a Rotney presidency sickens me. So I will continue to make calls for Barack as I did in 2008. I really appreciate your posing the question as I hope the thought will make me more motivated and determined.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
84. I'll have to go back on antidepressants for one thing
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:31 PM
Oct 2012

And I wonder of "President Romney" is a good enough reason to get medical marijuana...

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
85. Wonder
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:44 PM
Oct 2012

I am going to take my oil and gas subsidies, use my carried interest tax rate, and wonder why if I can see how screwed up that is, so many others cannot.

Governing will always be about choosing. How we can be so lost as a country that we allow lobbyists to make it possible for my industry to pay so little tax is beyond me. We make that choice for guys like me while

Most of my kids friends get out of college with tens of thousands of dollars in debt.

We cut food and heating assistance to the poor.

We want to cut funding for Planned Parenthood, Big Bird, and a host of other programs that collectively stitch together a warm, caring society, versus a cruel and heartless Pottersville.

I refuse to believe that as a country we are that phenomenally stupid!

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