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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsreverse mortgages: A Risky Lifeline for Seniors Is Costing Some Their Homes
The very loans that are supposed to help seniors stay in their homes are in many cases pushing them out.
Reverse mortgages, which allow homeowners 62 and older to borrow money against the value of their homes and not pay it back until they move out or die, have long been fraught with problems. But federal and state regulators are documenting new instances of abuse as smaller mortgage brokers, including former subprime lenders, flood the market after the recent exit of big banks and as defaults on the loans hit record rates.
Some lenders are aggressively pitching loans to seniors who cannot afford the fees associated with them, not to mention the property taxes and maintenance. Others are wooing seniors with promises that the loans are free money that can be used to finance long-coveted cruises, without clearly explaining the risks. Some widows are facing eviction after they say they were pressured to keep their name off the deed without being told that they could be left facing foreclosure after their husbands died.
Now, as the vast baby boomer generation heads for retirement and more seniors grapple with dwindling savings, the newly minted Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is working on new rules that could mean better disclosure for consumers and stricter supervision of lenders. More than 775,000 of such loans are outstanding, according to the federal government.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/business/reverse-mortgages-costing-some-seniors-their-homes.html?pagewanted=all
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)It's not like houses are selling like hotcakes now...
spooky3
(34,456 posts)Let's hope the new bureau can help these seniors.
janx
(24,128 posts)A very elderly friend of mine got one at the advice of his son; another friend (who often inserts herself into his affairs) thinks this is a disaster. She tells me that the bank now owns his house.
Is this true?
He currently lives in an assisted living facility and is something like 96 years old.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)(NOT that htey always work like that)
You have a home worth, equity wise, oh 300,000. You finance this way and you get a set amount of money every month from the bank, let's say 2,000.
In theory, you can stay at your place and receive that set amount until you die.
In practice, shady as they are, many of these loans do not work this way and anything like missing one maintainaince bill, you are out of the home
And yes, in effect the bank owns her home.
They are conceivably a good idea ONLY if you really need the money and there are no possible descendants.
janx
(24,128 posts)This guy is a WWII vet and a lifelong Dem. I don't know what his situation is with the house now (the last I heard he was going to rent it out), but I'm guessing his sons (one of whom works for Wells Fargo) know what they're doing.
I'm glad the feds are taking a close look. Thanks again.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)If you have no one to leave your home to, and you are not expected to live a very long time, it's not a bad way to recoup your "house-money"...
BUT
If you are 80-something
and your home is paid for and is currently worth $200K
you have a SS income of $1500 and a small pension of say $300 a month
You do not have a house payment
If you could get your equity "refunded" to you @ $1k a month, that $200K could last you the rest of your life and provide you with some comfort for the years left to you.
At some point the "bank" you dealt with could have paid out most of the equity and when you will die. What's left is theirs to keep...along with the home (you have no heirs)
If there ARE heirs, they could be entitled to what's left AFTER those "equity payments" to you have been "repaid". There will be , of course, "fees" and "expenses", and a lot depends on how long the home-owner lives.
The fly in the ointment is when there is a decline in home worth, and they have paid out all or most of what it's worth, and you are still alive...then what?
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,463 posts)And it's always sounded dangerous to me.
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)Borrowers are permitted to borrow a percentage of their homes value that's determined by the borrowers age (younger of the two if married).
Funds are disbursed in various ways-
1) Lump sum
2) Line of credit
3) Periodic wire transfer to your account (no checks are issued as a security measure)
There can also be a mashup of the above, such as a lump sum to retire any existing debts plus a line of credit and a periodic wire.
These loans have no payments, DO accrue interest, homeowner retains ownership and lives in their home until death.
Debt must be retired if the homeowner moves out (IE the loans are only permitted on your primary residence).
Covenants include- gotta keep taxes paid, insurance in force and home in habitable condition.
There is a mandatory counseling session to ensure seniors know when they're getting into.
Heirs inherit the remaining equity in the home.
Credit and income are irrelevant.
In sum, I'd say that it's an option for those who are short on income but heavy on home equity.
Fees are are often way higher than they should be (typically 2% of the maximum loan PLUS a shit ton of fees), which is something FHA should crack down on.
FHA permits a fairly low maximum Loan To Value (LTV) which is max loans divided by appraised value. (see link below)
My credentials- I'm a former owner of a FHA Title II non-supervised institution with operations in 4 states.
Here's a link showing how much you may qualify for based on age and location.
http://rmc.ibisreverse.com/default_nrmla.aspx
Here's a link to the FHA fact page-
http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/program_offices/housing/sfh/hecm/hecmhome
Other stuff to do to protect yourself-
Deed your home into a trust.
Look into a personal umbrella policy to cover excess liability
Draft a will (you don't want your estate in probate)