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When corporations can threaten citizens and tell them how to vote (Original Post) malaise Oct 2012 OP
K/R Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #1
Hopefully lsewpershad Oct 2012 #2
+1000 HockeyMom Oct 2012 #4
Perhaps if each count was additive to the total the law might dissuade businesses HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #3
Lock them up malaise Oct 2012 #17
That's so last year...Nobody goes to jail for anything anymore...How much longer until Tom Delay silvershadow Oct 2012 #40
People go to prison every day behrstar Oct 2012 #41
gees, a fine... defacto7 Oct 2012 #34
They are winning, but the battle is not over. HuckleB Oct 2012 #5
It's far from over malaise Oct 2012 #10
I'm not sure the fascists have won, but they're certainly mounting a strong front. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #6
Yes, fascism has been the word that flashes hot everytime I hear one of these stories. nc4bo Oct 2012 #18
It is fascism, and they rely on FOX and Rush to feed the fire. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #20
. theKed Oct 2012 #27
Yep. That's it. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #47
I think the score is pretty lop-sided StClone Oct 2012 #36
What's effin' next? no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #7
I don't know but this should be the main story on M$Greedia malaise Oct 2012 #11
And it could backfire on them too.. NeoConsSuck Oct 2012 #8
Fingers crossed malaise Oct 2012 #16
Nobody goes in the voting booth with you. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #9
There is EVERY PROBLEM HERE. We have billionaires and heads of corporations threatning.... Raster Oct 2012 #22
+1,000 malaise Oct 2012 #24
Really?? You have no problem with your employer threatening that you'll be fired if Obama wins? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #39
Voting coercion's one thing. What if you're coerced into campaigning? Or donating? Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #12
Same fascism malaise Oct 2012 #13
Not quite Warpy Oct 2012 #14
Mostly true but you get my point malaise Oct 2012 #15
Our ballots are secret as long as nobody can hack into the electronic voting machines... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #19
You decide..."The 14 Characteristics of Fascism" SoapBox Oct 2012 #21
I said we had this under Bush and people called me crazy. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #23
It's been creeping for some time malaise Oct 2012 #25
40 years ago Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2012 #26
It's amazing how little attention they pay to democracy these days malaise Oct 2012 #29
Hey, it's on the front page of Yahoo. which is a huge news homepage for millions. nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #38
FASCISTS EXPOSED! Cha Oct 2012 #28
Yes, but please spell it right!!!!! HuckleB Oct 2012 #31
I do have trouble with that word, thanks HuckleB! Cha Oct 2012 #35
Right wingers have been doing this crud so long, Hoyt Oct 2012 #30
We're doomed; the Creator and now the "Job creators" indoctrination ErikJ Oct 2012 #32
This IS fascism, isn't it? Threats on your vote is truly over the top - like the wealth of some. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #33
I am GLAD that the MSM is featuring this outrageous turn. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #37
This isn't a Federal crime why? nm SCVDem Oct 2012 #42
A fine line between that and unions forcing members to contribute to a campaign wtmusic Oct 2012 #43
It would be equally wrong if someone was forced to join a union, as a condition of employment, Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #44
In many cases that's essentially what happens nt wtmusic Oct 2012 #46
Union dues and COPE SCVDem Oct 2012 #45

lsewpershad

(2,620 posts)
2. Hopefully
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:48 PM
Oct 2012

workers are smart enough to realize once they are in the voting booth these clowns are not there with them.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. Perhaps if each count was additive to the total the law might dissuade businesses
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:50 PM
Oct 2012

from attemptin intimidation...

http://projectvote.org/voter-intimidation.html

The Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 prohibit persons from intimidating or attempting to intimidate, threaten or coerce another person for the purpose of interfering with their right to vote freely in federal elections. However, the maximum penalty for conviction on a charge of voter intimidation under federal guidelines is a fine and/or no more than one year in prison,

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
40. That's so last year...Nobody goes to jail for anything anymore...How much longer until Tom Delay
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:20 PM
Oct 2012

reports to prison? Did anybody go to jail for illegal Wall Street activity? I agree with you, wholeheartedly. I'd like to see more than just a handful doing the perp walk.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
34. gees, a fine...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:39 PM
Oct 2012

Like that would make a difference.

Time. They need to spend time for such a crime. How can this be watered down to such a small blip in politics? It has to be a major crime to coerce or threaten or bribe voters. Voting is the centrepiece of democracy and it is sacred.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
18. Yes, fascism has been the word that flashes hot everytime I hear one of these stories.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:09 PM
Oct 2012


More Shock Doctrine.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
27. .
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:48 PM
Oct 2012

“Now listen to the first three aims of the corporatist movement in Germany, Italy and France during the 1920s. These were developed by the people who went on to become part of the Fascist experience:
(1) shift power directly to economic and social interest groups;
(2) push entrepreneurial initiative in areas normally reserved for public bodies;
(3) obliterate the boundaries between public and private interest -- that is, challenge the idea of the public interest.
This sounds like the official program of most contemporary Western governments.”

― John Ralston Saul, The Unconscious Civilization

StClone

(11,683 posts)
36. I think the score is pretty lop-sided
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:49 PM
Oct 2012

Looking at SCOTUS rulings favoring the corporatist. Look at wealth distribution. Look at the monopolies in food production, media and energy. Look at who pays taxes. Look at banksters walking while a a small time thief sits in prison. We are the frog cooking in boiling water and and have no way to lower the heat the way things are.

One key factor is demonization and diminution of unions, simply people organizing for their own benefit, are at a century low but a figment of legal maneuvering allows corporations to have more power than any one man. I thing the strong front is a big crushing bulldozer.

no_hypocrisy

(46,115 posts)
7. What's effin' next?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:54 PM
Oct 2012

Employers coercing employees to vote absentee in their presence for their choice and sign and seal and give the ballots to the corporation?

malaise

(269,006 posts)
11. I don't know but this should be the main story on M$Greedia
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:59 PM
Oct 2012

How fuggin' dare them?

Instead all they talk about is their fuggin' horse race polls 24/7

NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
8. And it could backfire on them too..
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:55 PM
Oct 2012

If the CEO is perceived as a real prick by his employees, or treats his employees poorly, what better way to return the favor than the anonimity of the voting booth?

Raster

(20,998 posts)
22. There is EVERY PROBLEM HERE. We have billionaires and heads of corporations threatning....
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:29 PM
Oct 2012

....to fire people if President Obama is re-elected. No problem here?
I think you have forgotten to include your tag

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
39. Really?? You have no problem with your employer threatening that you'll be fired if Obama wins?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:07 PM
Oct 2012

Wow.. you should probably get a job there, sounds like you take directions very well.

Warpy

(111,266 posts)
14. Not quite
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

We still have a pretty much secret ballot in this country. It is absolutely essential for the employees of such a company to vote as they please and then lie to the boss about it if necessary.

Some people don't deserve to be told the truth. These bullying corporate bastards are first on the list.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
19. Our ballots are secret as long as nobody can hack into the electronic voting machines...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:10 PM
Oct 2012

....oh, wait.......

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,575 posts)
26. 40 years ago
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:47 PM
Oct 2012

this crap would be the leading story on the nightly news programs. Now it's barely a blip............

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. Right wingers have been doing this crud so long,
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:06 PM
Oct 2012

a lot of people think it is alright, can't stop it, both sides do it, and a million other irrational arguments to accept it.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
37. I am GLAD that the MSM is featuring this outrageous turn.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:05 PM
Oct 2012

You know, if they haven't laid them off THIS term, WHY would they lay them off next one??? Considering consumer spending up, confidence is up, jobs are up, etc. Oh yes.. so that the scumbag assholes like Siegel can build "the biggest house in America," aka the Queen of Verssaille. Frankly, most of their employees probably hate their asses, and will vote for Obama just to spite them.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
43. A fine line between that and unions forcing members to contribute to a campaign
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:39 PM
Oct 2012

as part of their dues.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
44. It would be equally wrong if someone was forced to join a union, as a condition of employment,
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:50 PM
Oct 2012

and that employee's union dues were used to aid a political candidate that the employee did not necessarily support.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
45. Union dues and COPE
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:03 PM
Oct 2012

are seperate.

If I want my IBEW to contribute to political causes, I would donate to COPE!

I wish people would get educated.

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