I hope someone jumps on this ASAP! Like tomorrow night....

and I'm saying that as a lifelong Virginian...

What a sick bastard. SERIESLY!!?!

MORONS!!!!!

His supporters are truly insane, this guy is proposing genocide of the working poor.

to describe the level of disgust felt when reading that. I'm from Virginia and this just makes me embarrassed to be from the same state as this evil person.

When you say you live by Chicago some people still say, "Oh, around Capone?"

of the opposite color from him, when in truth they are the same color as him.

who could be fairly compared to hitler or nazis without automatically discrediting yourself.

has made me wonder why so many of these people have become so outspoken about their true feelings, when before it had been unacceptable to publicly voice such radical opinions. The Milgram experiment comes to mind. They have been encouraged by Palin, the McCain campaign, Bachmann, Fox news, Rush, Beck, and other extremist, 'reich' wingers. They are authoritarian followers who are continually being told that it's ok to increase the voltage.

We are a nation trapped in a Milgram Experiment.

Living in a red state, I hear this sort of thing a lot. I have personally heard that slaves "were better off" under slavery. And I've heard that national political figures probably "hate the gays as much as we do, they just can't say it out loud."

And these are the nice, polite ones. I shudder to think of what comes out of the mouths of the teabaggers at one of their meetings.

believing that hateful and nasty comments by racists and bigots were largely a thing of the past.
boy was i fooled.
i'm not really surprised that some target the poor for abuse since we have been taught to blame/hate them for their own circumstances. they are lazy or shiftless and made bad choices that caused their conditions, so we don't have to care for them, is the common attitude directed toward the poor.
what does surprise me is the racism. especially toward a sitting president. it is terrible and overt in ways i have never witnessed (i belong to a bi-racial family and am no stranger to nasty comments).
and the calls for war if obama wins! that is just nuts. and one of these battle cries comes from an elected official in small town texas.
and, in reality, the crazy who proposes the final solution for unwed or poor parents, is not proposing anything different in substance than the romney/ryan plan for SS and Medicare. they would kill the poor too (to save a dime).
i teach in an inner-city public high school and have had to address some of the shit, that is flying around america, when students bring it up. it is not an easy task to explain such ugliness or to advise young people how to respond or react.

it seems clear that right wing wackos think they have been given the green light to emerge from their hiding places and proclaim their ugly presence. and, like cockroaches, there are a lot more of them than i would have suspected.
those you list as instigators are all guilty. these individuals and others are agitating the "woe is little white me" crowd. they are highlighting all the problems caused by bush and his minions and pointing the finger of blame directly at obama. their audience jumps to discredit obama and democrats (who they have been told are anti-american) in their vain attempt to justify their own misguided notions politics and society.
heck, even romeny told a birther joke on the campaign trail.
the ugly comments are becoming routine (i'm sad to say). so much so that one has to accept that behavior as part of the american persona.

This poor (stupid) man just stated the Romney/Ryan philosophy out loud.

He just STATED it to a reporter.

Did you miss the 47% tape?

Same thing.

Different speaker.

Some people, through no fault of their own are children who've a parent die leaving the family in terrible financial trouble. Some people are too old to work. He's an Idiocrat.

Handicapped people shouldn't HAVE children.

Monsters, every one of them.

in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean: kill! kill! kill! kill!"

when suggested to take kids away from poor parents

Hear me out.

I agree that people have to look at their household economy and determine if they can afford to bring a child into the world, feed and clothe him/her, love him/her, spend time with him/her, support him/her emotionally and position them for success in this world. That doesn't mean sending them to college but ensuring they take advantage of educational opportunities where available (i.e. public education), learn skills necessary to succeed in life at home.

If they can't then they should forgo having children or wait until their economy improves.

I make those decisions all the time. Gee I would like that new big screen tv. Can I afford it? Or even when I decided to acquire two dogs. I had to recognize the responsibility and the cost for them. Just last month one dog needed some surgery. The surgery cost $500.00. At the same time I went out of town to my father's memorial service and the cost of dogcare was $600.00. I factored all of that in BEFORE I got the dogs.

So at one level I agree that people need to carefully consider if they have resources to bring a child into the world and if they have one, consider the cost of adding to the size of the family.

But what a reprehensible cretin this one is...First of all the family may not have been poor when they had the children. This may not have been of their making - companies were laying off 1,000s of people just to be shedding cost. Further I'll bet he considers himself a good Christian. I know for certain he will be very surprised when judgment day is upon him. His religion embraces the poor, the sick and the needy. Christ would never advocate killing parents and breaking up families.

Further, Robme did not get his wealth because of his brains. He got it, just like G.W., because of inherited wealth, opportunity and connections from his Daddy. He has done NOTHING but destroy his entire life. Further Obama didn't get his wealth because of his charisma. He got it by working hard, being a skillful politician and advancing himself and his family.

have you figured out what you do with those dogs when/if you lose your job and can't feed yourself, much less the dogs?

Seriously, according to the OP this guy thinks you should be executed because you failed to plan properly.

There's an age old saying....if you wait to have children until you can afford them, you'll remain childless.

I wrote this guy doesn't take into account what happens if someone does plan and then something unexpected happens such as you lose your job, you become disabled, etc. Those "unexpected" things can happen and you cannot blame individuals when that happens.

Yes, he is a cretin and should apologize for his outrageous comments. But I do not back down on my view that there are people who screw around (pun intended) and get pregnant without any thought or consideration of the responsibility/cost of having a child.

Classic example, a cousin of my nephews (other side of the family), left the military in June and moved back to his hometown with his bride. Neither of them have a job but they were insisting they have a 2 bedroom apartment with a fireplace, a deck and covered parking. The husband now has a part-time job working for a catering company. She is now pregnant. What were they thinking? She is now on the Oregon version of Medicaid, they are taking in food stamps, etc.

This is an example where society should NOT be responsible for paying for her pre-natal care or any additional assistance required because they CHOSE to get pregnant. I have no doubt they know how to keep from getting pregnant.

They are both in their mid-20s so it isn't like they are at a critical age around having children.

But there are individuals who do plan and prepare for children and then they lose their job or become disabled or have any number of things happen to them. These people cannot be blamed for their situation. We need to collectively support them that provides them with the material needs they have - food, healthcare, housing, etc. with an eye toward getting them back to work. That requires policies that drive the creation of jobs with LIVABLE wages. That may necessarily include a requirement for re-training, etc.

and, frankly, found it disgusting.

The same as I find this one. I'm sorry, but I don't know ANY Democrats who would deny ANYONE pre-natal care.

Sheesh!

People that meet your criteria get help and assistance and those that don't can die!

What a wonderful concept, are you sure you're in the right place?

but, not even the soldiers who protected his/her right to say so are NOT qualified to have children, according to these posts!

YIKES!

It binds two people. And sometimes it causes the two people to really, really love children and want them.

Unfortunately, love does not only happen to two people who have money. Sometimes it happens to the poor. And when it does, sometimes they have to rely on food stamps maybe just for a bit maybe for a long time, but they love each other and have wonderful children and a wonderful life together. Because they love.

On the other hand, sometimes two people think they are in love, and they marry and they make lots of money or very little money and they think they ought to have children because after all that is what they are expected to do. So they have maybe two or three children and then, they decide they didn't love each other nearly as much as they thought, and one of them leaves the other and leaves the children.

And they decide to divorce, and they fight and fight and they file all kinds of nasty papers saying all kinds of ugly things about each other in the divorce court, each trying to take money and the kids from the other because that way they can make the other one "pay."

So in the end their friends and neighbors realize that really one or both of them didn't love the kids so much. They really loved their money more. Sometimes they were really well organized and made sure the money was there before they had the kids. So they were never on food stamps or welfare. Sometimes they weren't well organized and didn't have the money. There wasn't so much to fight over in divorce court.

The beginning is always the same: Two people fall in love and have children. The ending depends on the person's character and ability to love, not on how well they plan their family.

I've seen lots of children whose parents had nothing but love when they married and they still had that love years and years later when the children grew into wonderful adults even though they were never rich.

Whether you can "afford" a child depends on luck. Whether you can "love" a child is a different matter. And it's love that children need more than anything.

I'm not saying Swede is 100% wrong, but I am saying that we shouldn't be judging people who have chosen to try to have a full life. We cant all get everything planned -- Life Happens, and sometimes it doesnt work out right. And we certainly shouldn't neglect or deny prenatal or pediatric care.

I think we live in such a money oriented society, that people can only have love if they can afford it. Only people with money can raise a child well?

I think we run into lots of problems when we try to put people into overly simplistic, restrictive categories. I've known plenty of bad parents who could "afford to have children" and poor parents who raised extraordinary children. As you said, "It's love that children need more than anything".

and how is it the baby should be punished for the bad decisions of the parents? cause that's what you are saying. I look forward to you explaining to this child how the sins of his parents should be visited on him...

Or for that matter, receiving food stamps. Prenatal care benefits everyone, and to me it's pretty hard-hearted and uncaring to deny a woman that because she CHOSE to get pregnant. I'd far rather have my tax money go to assist my fellow citizens than fund wars and tax breaks for big oil and corporations.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

It would have gotten hidden. It was impolite.

I won't apologize, because it was accurate.

now they are given guest host slots on fox news.

They were big on radio back in the day. I remember my parents talking about some of these same types of people having radio shows. It is why we had McCarthyism. They were the ones who had unwed mothers placed in mental institutions if they didn't give up their babies for adoption.

I feel the real difference is that in the last few decades they have faced resistance. It drives them into a frenzy that many barriers they placed have been broken down and they are fighting like pitbulls to put them back up.

They could have afforded a better birthing place than a feeding trough in an animal shed!

If you can trace your ancestry to having come to the USA over 100 years ago, and you are NOT in the top 5% of earners and/or asset holders, then we should shoot YOUR ass because you and your family have had enough time to rise to the top of this perfectly unbiased and completely merit-based economy.........

In case this isn't clear BTW:

that poverty and unemployment are voluntary in the United States. His letter started off by complaining about the number of children that were receiving free lunch at school. He didn't go so far as to suggest executions, however.

they have always had these thoughts. They now have been encouraged by the Right-Wing extremists, via radio and tv, to voice these thoughts.

It's the eliminationist mentality of Republicans linked to their contempt for the poor.

If these guys had there way they would start rounding up all who they consider to be worthless or their political opponents and throw them into labor camps which would double as death camps.

"Final solution" or something. Huh.

They just don't have what it takes to come right out and say it. Take a good look at Ryan plan for Medicare what it will do is make health care not affordable for most seniors. So what happen to they one who don't have a lot of money They get to die! Same reason for cut out the safety net they just plain do not care about other people period!

Damn, this fool's stupid.

His articles are published regularly in professional journals.

He's just misunderstood.

... Then .. he says, “the NAACP is the most racist organization in America, just as racist as the Klan” ...

“Everyone in Iraq under Hussein was a terrorist,” he says. “If there were there under Hussein, they agreed with him, and they needed to be taken out. They’re all terrorists” ...

... “Global warming? There’s no such thing. Seriously, the whole thing is complete nonsense. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the environment that man can have any effect over. The environment is fine. The environmentalists made all this up so they can profit off carbon trading. That idiot Al Gore created this whole thing so they can get rich off carbon trading, it's a complete scam, a total fiction. You know how you can tell? They started off calling it global warming, then changed the name to climate change" ...

Now it makes so much sense

"Do not waste your time on Social Questions. What is the matter with the poor is Poverty; what is the matter with the rich is Uselessness."

The real "useless eaters", the real "takers" and "moochers" are people like this racist gas bag and his idol, Mitt Romney.

simplistic, knee-jerk "kill 'em all" solutions suit the 12-to-13 year old mentality of many GOP voters.

Some republicans have turned to calling themselves libertarians to escape the insanity. That doesn't work because it is just insanity under a different label. They need a cure in the form of a vaccination with a mix of reality and humanity. Since they abhor science I doubt that will happen.

Hey, Clifford...shut off the hate radio and come back to the real world. You see, these poor can't find jobs because Romney and his ilk shipped them overseas, Bush crashed the economy and the rich have hiked up prices of oil...which hiked up the price of food, clothing and rent. The end result is people need help. The rich are passing down these bizarre stories to stir up their constituents so they don't feel guilty being rich because they hiked up prices of oil...which hiked up the price...! You get the drift.

Oh, and by the way, the majority of those "freeloaders" are not black or brown, they are white. Why don't you get to know them...you might just like them.

those CHRISTIAN PREACHERS. We're going to start burning witches again.

yo ho , yo ho a pilots life for me . here we go the fuck a gain. keep your bloody fucking hands off my fukin welfare. quit going into the ss trust fund to pay for wars and other such things. smarter to make more money eh . some people just cant work . have a bunch of eldery ladies in my apartmen building ( many disabled and cant work, meh )who have done their fucking time and many are disabled . these a$$hats just dont fucking understand . id like it to happen to them when they cant work ,find job in debit and so fourth .grrr sorry for the rant but this subject gets me going .

contribute to society? Does he or has he ever taken a single dollar from the government?

Doing what?

Making policy? Or sweeping floors and cleaning toilets?

There are assholes most everywhere. The real question is, does this particular asshole speak from a position of authority of the other asshole's campaign, or is he just a nutcase that happened to volunteer or is a temp worker.

And no, I'm NOT "missing the point." That there are tons of Republican racist assholes is hardly breaking news.

What role does this asshole play in Rmoney's campaign? You could have just explained THAT, instead of being a jerk to me.

According to the Wonkette article.

Then later as 'a nice man working in the Mitt Romney campaign office'. Doubly meaningless. Why was time and space given to this buffoon if he doesn't have any clear role in the campaign?

What do they say about it?

... you are just another post and run artist, eh buddy?

Bristol Palin. Mary Chaney. Watch your back! You too, Mary and Joseph.

I just threw up a little while reading this.

It is simply inhumane.

Yet all these haters claim we are a Christian nation.

you know... because their husband died and left them to raise their children by herself as a single parent. I suppose he thinks she should be violated in front of those children before being adopted out and before being executed to teach her a lesson for having the audacity to survive her husband?

And by definition, a widow is no longer married, which makes her as non-married as a single woman with children. Now, let's see him dance his way out of that one.

does this ape not understand just how unchristian--nay, devilish--he sounds saying this and backing it up at every opportunity? What pastor backs him up, cause you know he attends church... his own God said "do unto other as you would have them do unto you"... what about that doesn't he get?

edited to add because some will not get it.

I had the audacity to survive my husband, and have his minor child at home when he died.

widowed at 43 with 3 teenagers...

Too bad most of them involve harming someone in some way for reasons that no one can fathom.

I've worked on campaigns, and we've had to dismiss people for being too extreme. He would he shown the door.

As for his comments? Well he hits a nerve with me. As someone who has been "touched" by the billion dollar adoption machine in America, his views are pretty close to how many of the people who make money off pregnant girls in America, feel. We're just vessels so that the Catholic Church, and the corporate agencies, can make their money. The babies are curated, not unwanted, in most cases. His views expose the dirty secret that many republicans share... We don't deserve to raise our kids unless we're rich. It sickens me.

n/t

There has been a plantation like style and attitude to wards the American Worker. It seems as though no one wants to really discuss the truth about how a lot of these Barons became Wealthy or their real vision for America. You hear them spit out ugly words on China but are constantly adopting their model of workforce through Prison systems. They set up shop in these countries such as China,India, with profit margins that get them 600% or more in some cases. If you are paying a worker .99 (ninety-nine cents) per hour and cranking out a hundred units per hour, and with shipping cost it only cost you $2.00 to make a pair of jeans you can sell in america for $25.00. This is fundamentally the problem. These Barons want to operate like this right here in America. They cannot understand why any one wants to get in the way of the Free Market. Their right to own things should include the labor force. It is as simple as that. When Romney said his remarks about 47% of the country was dependent upon Government Assistance and that those people will be with the President, He did not know his facts, or else he wouldn't have said it. He did just what he was intended on doing trying to give the impression that it was mostly people of color and poor people who are the only ones who would dare vote for President Obama. Not anyone in this room, why would any self respecting Wealthy individuals such as ourselves even lower ourselves to count them as citizens. You know they are really only 3/5 of a person anyway.And if we go back to the Original Constitution the way our founding fathers meant for it to be we would not have these issues.The problem was that 9 out of the top 10 states that receive some form of Governmental Assistance is in Republican states or Republican leaning States. Which he could not have known before he said it. Because he insulted the very people that are supposed to be his base. Not very Smart for a Presidential Candidate.

close to what many of them will say in private. Get into a conversation with a couple of them
and just play along and agree with them and see how far it goes.

If you don't have "poor" people or workers who need to work to survive, who is going to do the work that needs to be done? Certainly not their bratty, privileged children or grandchildren. Problem is, many of the conservatives don't think they are poor or in the working class. Most like to think that the color of their skin means they are in the upper class. They don't understand that they are living lives close to that of indentured servants.

Clifford and his views represents a small but significant percentage of the republican base, unfortunately.

Who, in heavens name would fight the wars to find weapons of mass destruction?

...this link from the dude's local paper:

http://www.roanoke.com/columnists/casey/wb/315365

As incredible, or maybe even more startling than the original piece.

See -- the evil 'progressive' writer who gained the old coot's confidence, originally --
misquoted him.

Lies, deception, distortion and mendacity:

What Mr. Russell really wants is here:

[div class ="excerpt"]...discerning readers likely have zeroed in on the inaccuracy in that eyebrow-raising "blurb."

Russell doesn't advocate capital punishment for all parents on welfare. He reserves the death penalty only for unwed welfare moms and dads.

Russell himself emphasized this distinction in a piece he wrote last week for The Bedford Bulletin:

"I did not say that I wanted to execute parents on welfare and give their kids up for adoption. I said that it would be better to execute the parents of an illegitimate child and put their child up for adoption.

"Does it bother you that progressives have to intentionally lie to make their positions look good?"

and it's exactly what the Wonkette article says. This guy is unreal. I can't help wondering what he does/ did for a living. I'm assuming he's now on Social Security. So many of the right wingers who complain about the 47% are.

I would have called Clifford Russell a liar to his face if he said the point of Capitalism was NOT to passively kill the poor with negligence.

He probably thought Gingrich was too empathetic to the poor.