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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA romney/ryan win it would mean if a woman has a fetus with spina bifida, or some other tragic
situation, she would be forced to carry to term, and not only be responsible for the financial burden, and have to endure the suffering of the family and the fetus that would occur
In other words there are other situations besides rape, incest, or the life of the mother, where abortion occurs, and those other situations are out of mind, out of sight of many people
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)So, there, it's not an issue!
(sarcasm)
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)First off, I am female. I've known several women in my lifetime who have had abortions, and with each of those women, had the procedure NOT been legal and available to them at the time they made the decision to have the abortion - - - they would have found a way.
This is what the idiots who want to overturn Roe v Wade don't get, or in more likelihood, don't care about. There will be women dying because of botched abortions.
I don't believe that there needs to be ANY justification for a women deciding to terminate a pregnancy. It should be the woman's choice and be between her, her health care provider, and anyone else who she chooses to enlist to discuss the situation with. Some women simply don't wish to have a child at the time they become pregnant. And I, personally, see nothing wrong with that.
still_one
(92,193 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I'm sorry, but most GOP voters are dumbfucks - guns, Jesus, anti-abortion, 6,000 year-old earth, and NO HOMOS! If you push those buttons, you've got their vote.
still_one
(92,193 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)I agree that there are some who want this to become a reality.
And romney is certainly pandering to them as much as he can without alienating the more moderate types.
But I highly doubt he'd have the clout or the interest in making that a reality.
If he did what would he use to energize his base in 2016?
It's a hot-button issue that get's some people riled up but isn't really going to happen. Just like if Ron Paul had won I really doubt we would have actually gotten back to the gold standard.
What a politician says and what he does aren't always the same thing. And right now there is no mass support for banning abortions.
Don't forget: a president isn't a king even if we've given the office a lot more power in recent years. He still has to get all this passed (if he even bothers) through both houses. And of course overturning Roe v Wade would not be in his power anyway.
still_one
(92,193 posts)Appoint judges so roe gets overturned
If you every watch Maddow there are a few states working on legislation to do just that
It is not unlikely, but a real possibility
Many have taken it for granted, saying it is unlikely
What is unlikely is citizens united will be overturned
That would take a Constitutional amendment
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)if a politician said something while campaigning then that is an ironclad promise.
It is not unlikely, but a real possibility
Many have taken it for granted, saying it is unlikely
A real possibility prior to every election should the republican win. It was going to happen in 2004, and 2000, and 1988, and 1984, and 1974 (just you wait!).
What is unlikely is citizens united will be overturned
Because it's impossible to overturn a supreme court ruling?
Initech
(100,076 posts)Really sometimes I wonder why we're at war with the Taliban. You'd think these idiots would make natural allies.
still_one
(92,193 posts)Initech
(100,076 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)The president can't pass laws. Even the Congress can't pass laws that are unconstitutional, and abortion has been found to be a constitutional right.
Even if Romney is elected and the Republicans win the Senate, it seems totally impossible for the Republicans to win a filibuster-proof Senate. So SC nominees will still be vetted and blocked if they support overturning all the SC precedents.
Your point as to why abortions occur is quite valid, of course.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Tell it to my classmate from Yale. She has spina bifida. She uses a wheelchair. She also has a top job in NYC government and is happily married. Oh yes, she's also a good Dem!
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)that is not a progressive view AT ALL.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Tanni Grey-Thompson - Welsh Paralympic athlete, member of British House of Lords
Blaine Harrison - lead singer, keyboards, rhythm guitarist and former drummer of the British band Mystery Jets
Rene Kirby - US actor in films such as Shallow Hal and Stuck on You
John Mellencamp - US rock and roll musician
Karin Muraszko - chair of Department of Neurosurgery at University of Michigan, first female appointed to such a position in the US
Jeffrey Tate - British conductor
Lucinda Williams - US country music singer/songwriter
Miller Williams - US poet
Justin Yoder - soapbox derby driver[citation needed]
Aaron Fotheringham - wheelchair "skater" and stunt performer
Richard Colman
Kerrie Engel
Guro Fjellanger
Theresa Goh
Lawrence Gwozdz
Robert M. Hensel
Tatyana McFadden
Deahnne McIntyre
David Proud
Jesse Richards
Lori and George Schappell
Matt Scott
Geoff Trappett
Dale Tryon, Baroness Tryon
Hank Williams
Do you suppose any of them view(ed) their lives as a "tragic situation"?