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Here is some right-wing crap going around the Facebook... (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2012 OP
LOL! sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #1
While its all bullshit Drale Oct 2012 #2
yeah and how tough could 2 years in Paris be? Iris Oct 2012 #27
Much tougher than Khe Sanh I'm sure. n/t DefenseLawyer Oct 2012 #41
Some people are generous like that because they feel guilty over how they "earned" the money in the Frustratedlady Oct 2012 #30
Where to start with this pile of malarky?? madinmaryland Oct 2012 #3
Did he do those things? galaxyS3 Oct 2012 #13
Do you read a lot? kentuck Oct 2012 #15
Can you prove that the graphic is wrong? galaxyS3 Oct 2012 #18
See post #26 PatSeg Oct 2012 #34
It's the omissions, DUH. Like: "Spent years sending jobs to China and making 100's of million$$." WinkyDink Oct 2012 #43
Easy. Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #4
So he really didn't take any money for 28 years then? Is that what you galaxyS3 Oct 2012 #11
That's what some right-wing morons are suggesting... kentuck Oct 2012 #14
So you can prove that the graphic is wrong? galaxyS3 Oct 2012 #16
Well... kentuck Oct 2012 #19
Some of it's just silly. "Unpaid intern"? "Volunteer in his TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #20
And you wonder why Joe Biden can't stop laughing... kentuck Oct 2012 #22
Neo-Cons Throwing Shiate Against The Wall And Hoping Some Of It Sticks. Delusional Bastards! Guitarzz Oct 2012 #5
I heard this morning that he was largely absent during most of his term as MA governor... rfranklin Oct 2012 #6
During his last year as governor of MA PatSeg Oct 2012 #29
I feel like Joe Biden... kentuck Oct 2012 #7
If Mittens was middle class, this would be impressive. If he were merely TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #8
Mitt thinks everybody can work for free! aletier_v Oct 2012 #9
He did NOT give his entire inheritance to charity. louis-t Oct 2012 #10
Well.... kentuck Oct 2012 #12
Easy. Wait Wut Oct 2012 #17
Yes, his charity was his church... kentuck Oct 2012 #21
I'm always so torn about church donations and tax exemptions. Wait Wut Oct 2012 #25
Oh, yeah? Let's see the tax returns, Mitt. mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #23
Can't stop laughing.. kentuck Oct 2012 #24
Mitt Romney Served Without Pay for 28 years…Really? No. Tennessee Gal Oct 2012 #26
Thanks PatSeg Oct 2012 #33
Are there any sources for that Blog? galaxyS3 Oct 2012 #38
Here is more info: kentuck Oct 2012 #39
You're on a computer, aren't you? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #44
That doesn't begin to compensate this country for... JaneQPublic Oct 2012 #28
There's that...and I'd say the people of Massachusetts pretty much TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #31
The Mormon Church is NO chrity.. AzSweet Oct 2012 #32
And THAT is what he's been hiding in his tax returns: NOT giving the required amount to his CHURCH. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #45
Malarkey! KamaAina Oct 2012 #35
I guess the year volunteering for his father at 15 and the 8 years as an unpaid intern explain a lot denverbill Oct 2012 #36
Fucking communist. Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #37
Mormon missionary in Paris (to avoid military service) Initech Oct 2012 #40
Why, he's practically Mother Teresa and St. Francis of Assisi in one! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #42
Proving once again the old adage "you don't get something for nothing." yellowcanine Oct 2012 #46
Alright let's see if we can get this straight: Xyzse Oct 2012 #47

Drale

(7,932 posts)
2. While its all bullshit
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:48 PM
Oct 2012

Just looking at the graphic, I'd say Mitt Romney is a extremely rich mother fucker who has so much money he doesn't know what to do with it all.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
30. Some people are generous like that because they feel guilty over how they "earned" the money in the
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:39 PM
Oct 2012

first place. Like Bill Cosby once said, "They're trying to buy their way into heaven."

As for the church, he was trying to work his way to the top so he can save us all when the 2nd coming comes around.

Give that man a suit of armor and a white horse. Fulfill his dreams.

 

galaxyS3

(19 posts)
13. Did he do those things?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

Or is the graphic false? It seems that I have read all these are true, are they not?

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
15. Do you read a lot?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:07 PM
Oct 2012

I hope you are not going to vote in this election...no matter if you're voting for our guy.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
43. It's the omissions, DUH. Like: "Spent years sending jobs to China and making 100's of million$$."
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:32 PM
Oct 2012

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
4. Easy.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:49 PM
Oct 2012

He didn't want to pay ordinary income taxes. Vultured enough in carried interest and capital gains that he didn't need the higher tax liability that would have come from a regular job.

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
19. Well...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:17 PM
Oct 2012

If he took no inheritance for 28 years, how did he end up with a $100 million dollar IRA in a foreign account? And he was on a mission to Paris during the Vietnam War, while some like myself was serving our country. By the way, have you read about the little accident he had while on his "mission"?

Do you not have a problem with people running for President putting most of their wealth in foreign countries? What happens if we have a dispute with that country while he is President?

Took no pay as President of the SLC Olympics? But did take an exorbitant amount from the taxpayers, relatively speaking, of $1.3 billion dollars. We saved the Olympics, not Mitt Romney.

And paid 14% taxes on $20 million dollars of income last year and want to cut taxes by another 20%. And you probably think he wants to balance the budget?

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
6. I heard this morning that he was largely absent during most of his term as MA governor...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:55 PM
Oct 2012

He was already using it as a springboard to higher office. So he didn't deserve to take a salary.

The Olympics was another way to polish his credentials. It was not "saved" by Romney. Instead the Salt Lake City Olympics were bailed out with taxpayer money to the tune of $1.3 billion dollars.

"One can argue whether it’s appropriate to include the $1.1 billion that may or may not have been sent to Salt Lake City without the Olympics in the total tally of the costs of the 2002 games. But when the DNC cites the $1.3 billion for the 2002 games, it compares it to $75 million for the 1984 Los Angeles Games. That’s not an apples-to-apples comparison. The federal government spent $78 million in direct costs for the 1984 Olympics as opposed to $342 million in direct costs for the 2002 Olympics."
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/slaloming-through-olympic-facts/

There is also the Mormon connection. Salt Lake City is their base location and the cult benefited from all the publicity and from much of the money spent on the Olympics.

All of his "charity" work for the church is self serving since they only spend any donations or influence to enhance the growth and power of that church. So fine if you believe that the Church of Latter Day Saints is representing your interests. For most of us, that would be negative.

PatSeg

(47,457 posts)
29. During his last year as governor of MA
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:37 PM
Oct 2012

he spent 200 days out of state, campaigning for other republicans and building relationships for his eventual run for the presidency. Yes, he only used MA "as a springboard for higher office" and left office a very unpopular governor.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
8. If Mittens was middle class, this would be impressive. If he were merely
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:56 PM
Oct 2012

a millionaire once over, this might mean something. If you are worth $200 million--WHO GIVES A SHIT?

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
17. Easy.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:10 PM
Oct 2012

28 years without a paycheck? OMG! How did he ever survive!? I couldn't live 2 weeks without a paycheck. He must be a genius...or something. And, all that money to charity (his church). What a damned saint! No paycheck, gives up his inheritance and STILL donates to his church??

How did he DO it??? It must be magic!!!

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
21. Yes, his charity was his church...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:19 PM
Oct 2012

Which he can tap into any time he wants. That's their religion.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
25. I'm always so torn about church donations and tax exemptions.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:31 PM
Oct 2012

While many churches abuse the privileges, there are many, many small churches that truly use those funds to help the community. A lot of those churches are in inner cities.

But, I know too many people (Reps/Cons) that use their donations as a lapel pin that says they donate 'so much' to charity. Just like when they 'volunteer' at local food banks. A friend of mine has been a volunteer at one of our local food banks for years. She said they volunteer in 'gaggles' (heh...). She'll get a group of them all at once and all they do is bitch about the people that come in for help. Sort of defeating the whole purpose of volunteering to FRIGGIN' HELP THE NEEDY!! (sorry for yelling) One actually wrote a LTE in our local paper saying that people coming to food banks should have to show ID proving they're citizens. How very saintly.

Romney's idea of charity is giving to people/organizations that benefit themselves. His idea of volunteering is how his sons are 'serving their country by working for his campaign'.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
26. Mitt Romney Served Without Pay for 28 years…Really? No.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:32 PM
Oct 2012

I did some research this particular stupid claim, but it is on my home computer. Here is a link I found that is pretty good for refuting this crap.

http://siliconcowboy.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/mitt-romney-served-without-pay-for-28-years-really/



JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
28. That doesn't begin to compensate this country for...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:37 PM
Oct 2012

...all the jobs and potential tax revenue he sent overseas.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
31. There's that...and I'd say the people of Massachusetts pretty much
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:40 PM
Oct 2012

got what they paid for. Didn't pay him, got next to nothing out of him.

AzSweet

(102 posts)
32. The Mormon Church is NO chrity..
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

A Mormon is REQUIRED to serve without pay, to pay 10% of gross income to the church. If they dont, they are not a member in good standing, and cannot enter the temple to be married, attend childrens marraiges, baptize dead people, bless babies...etc..etc. And all their relatives and church members will know they are not a member in good standing, if they cant do all that stuff. And must be nice to be able to work for free...no, Mitt is definitely not a charitable person.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
45. And THAT is what he's been hiding in his tax returns: NOT giving the required amount to his CHURCH.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:35 PM
Oct 2012
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
35. Malarkey!
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:46 PM
Oct 2012

For one thing, we now know he was working at Bain while running the Olympics. For another, if he'd given his entire inheritance to charity, how did he and Queen Ann have stock to live off of in their poverty days?

"Unpaid intern in Governor's office?" Which one? Could it have been Gov. George Rmoney, by any chance?

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
36. I guess the year volunteering for his father at 15 and the 8 years as an unpaid intern explain a lot
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 01:48 PM
Oct 2012

He spent 9 entire years from age 15-24 doing unpaid political work instead of studying. He's another GWB. Uneducated son of privilege.

Then 2 more years in a missionary position. I'm not sure what he got out of that, except a chance to dodge serving his country in Vietnam.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
40. Mormon missionary in Paris (to avoid military service)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:25 PM
Oct 2012

Took no pay and salary - while robbing companies stupid.

That's the kind of guy Romney is - full of bullshit.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
47. Alright let's see if we can get this straight:
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:38 PM
Oct 2012
Gave his entire inheritance to charity:
One has to wonder what charity that is. If it is towards the Church, that doesn't really mean it goes to charity as he has a handle on that wealth and funds, being a President of that section of the LDS church.
I can not substantiate that, since all of that seems to be heresay. I have no actual hard documents to show if that is true or false. Just because someone says it, if there is no documentation, I am not sure of it.

Volunteered for his father's gubernatorial campaign for 1 year:
Volunteering for a family member's political ambitions does not mean you don't get fringe benefits in regards to monetary compensation or anything. Particularly that being his father. Being part of the family means you can earn or get compensation by other means. The other thing that happens is that with volunteer work in such a manner, you get key contacts for the advancement of your own business interests. Be it advice on stock, furtherance of key goals through monetary contributions, and investing in businesses that you own.

Unpaid intern in Governor's Office for 8 years:
There is a reason people intern for politicians even if they don't get paid. It goes back to point 2 where you get compensation in other means, through contacts and the furtherance of your business interests. It also allows you to get your foot on the door on people who will invest in you. I would love to have stocks and business ownership while being an "unpaid intern" who gets help on those other things from the contacts one makes.

Mormon Missionary for 2 years in Paris:
Yes, that seems great, if you don't count that being a way to dodge the draft during Vietnam.

Unpaid President in his church for 10 years:
Yeah, sure, and that also means utilizing the money of the church for their own gain. What do business people know how to do? Use other people's money to make money. Awesome!

Took no pay as President of Salt Lake Olympics for 3 years:
Note a few prior threads about this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021002939
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251121277
Which mentions bribery scandals, being bailed out by the Federal Government which he used for infrastructure and other things, while somehow pocketing the difference.

Took no pay as Massachusetts Governor for 4 years:
Well some people here have already mentioned things about that here. If I had to guess, he used the governorship as a tool for helping his business partners first, who then helps him out right after.

Please note, that many of the jobs provided in that graphic are jobs people do for free due to the extreme fringe benefits that one gets. Sure, you don't get paid, but you get paid in the contacts you make.

Basically, you rub someone's back they rub yours. It means people investing heavily in your businesses, making things run a bit more smoothly when you're in trouble. People won't be doing that if they don't get compensated in other ways. Besides, the type of compensation you get from doing something like that is:

Tax Free, and you can actually claim some of that on your taxes too! So, if you're like Mitt who basically lives through his stocks, dividends and trust funds, as well as have a company you own/are attached to, well that is actually a great deal. You earn more through your passive income than your salary on any of those things could.

I mean think about it, the most you could earn in any of those fields at the most is a six figure income. If you're earning over 7 figures, get more people to know who will help you on your business ventures, and earn a tax break to boot? That is where the money is at.

Oh also, please note, that Romney was the Owner and Sole Proprietor of Bain for a while, and so if:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002990007 where his campaign during Governorship says that he actually didn't work for Bain, but just invested in it is true, well, he really hasn't made any sort of job creating business of any sort.
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