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By Rebecca Leber
The Koch brothers $60 million pledge to defeat President Obama along with their political networks $400 million spending make them two of the most influential conservatives this election.
Not content with their unprecedented influence in politics, the Kochs have also taken to influencing the votes of their employees. According to In These Times, Koch Industries sent 45,000 mailers to employees at Koch subsidiary Georgia Pacific, urging votes for Romney and other conservative candidates. The letter warns ominously of consequences for the workers if Republicans lose.
The Koch mailer is one of several recent examples of executives warning that employees may lose their jobs if Republicans do not win in November. Here is an excerpt of the letter:
While we are typically told before each Presidential election that it is important and historic, I believe the upcoming election will determine what kind of America future generations will inherit.
If we elect candidates who want to spend hundreds of billions in borrowed money on costly new subsidies for a few favored cronies, put unprecedented regulatory burdens on businesses, prevent or delay important new construction projects, and excessively hinder free trade, then many of our more than 50,000 U.S. employees and contractors may suffer the consequences, including higher gasoline prices, runaway inflation, and other ills.
In These Times also reports that employees are restricted in their political free speech on social media outlets.
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http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/15/1010581/koch-employee-votes/
Evidently, spending $400 million wasn't enough to get despicable asshole Mitt elected. Now they're resorting to fascist threats.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts).....if their employees don't vote for the prescribed list of politicians..their jobs are in jeopardy.
While there are a million things wrong with that stand (and NO..it's not like what Unions have done!), the one thing that struck me is the irony of what is happening in the political arena...the individual vote seems to NOT be entirely directed by Citizens United and the money that is pouring into the elections. I honestly think the Koch Brothers thought they could 'invest' in their potential multi billion dollar future earnings, by buying off the nation and it's voters. I imagine it's driving the Kochs insane that this election isn't being bought off as easliy as they thought.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)the peasants into seeing things THEIR way. Just like a mugger with a weapon will quickly convince you that it's in your best interests to hand over your purse or wallet without a fight--or face the consequences.
BumRushDaShow
(129,030 posts)pulled the same crap with his large holdings of companies and ranted against Rmoney given that he is higher up on the food chain than the Kochs? And maybe even have an ad where the Geico gecko drop-kicks Lyin' Ryan?
Dem2TheCore
(220 posts)Then you have to promise to shut up, vote for the candidates your bosses pick, and donate your hard earned money to the causes your employers support. Don't like it? Go find another job.
Welcome to America in the Citizens United century.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)And they should be. Keep it up, though. This is how revolutions start and people like the Koch's usually don't fair too well as I remember.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)4 years. and guess what they are going to continue to make a fortune the next four years if president obama wins. this shit is crazy, i really believe most of this is because he's black.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)whatever money that remains in the pockets of low and middle-income Americans is in theirs instead. To them, what little money that people obtain via government programs should be in the pockets of the rich only. You see how they've opposed social security, welfare, and other government programs. In essence, they're trying to wolf down the entire potato chip bag, even the crumbs.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)But the old kanye was just beautiful " drug dealers buy Jordan's, crackheads buy crack,and the white man make money off all of that".
Man I miss the old kanye.
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)dhill926
(16,339 posts)HeeBGBz
(7,361 posts)If I got that email, I would vote for the opposite just for spite.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)get their shitty paws on your voting records. Voter ID laws are the groundwork toward that goal.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)So, best not put any bumper stickers on your car, or signs in your yard, or be seen canvassing or phoning for the "wrong" candidate, etc, etc. Best not discuss politics at all, lest it get back to the bosses and you get put on the shit list.
It seems to me that's what they're trying to do with this. They can't find out how you voted, but they can sure try to prevent you from publicly supporting and working for the "wrong" candidate.
AnnieK401
(541 posts)Although you can register as independent. I am starting to wonder if these companies check voter registration records.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)really wasn't enamored of either political party enough to affiliate. Over time, I recognized that I am very much a Democrat, and so that's how I register these days.
There's also the issue of if you want to vote in the primaries, many states require that you be registered for the party in whose primary you wish to vote. Some allow a last minute change on election day, after which you can change back if you choose. I think voter registration lists are pretty much open to the public. At least I would tend to assume that anyone could check and see how I'm registered.
I would think there are some kind of laws against that kind of intimidation.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)is it?
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)The RICO Act prohibits extortion of employees by corporate employers. If this is not extortion, I don't know what is.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-rico-law.htm
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 16, 2012, 12:42 PM - Edit history (1)
Then where are the law officers to enforce it? Why is SOMEONE not in Jail, like the guy who signed this letter?
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)I think members of Congress are taking steps to deal with it.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Thanks!
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)How is this any different from the candidate's stump speeches? Both sides and their supporters warn of dire consequences should the opposing side win the election including (on the Republican side) that an Obama victory would play havoc with businesses and employment.
Since Koch can't trace which employees voted for which candidate it's not like there can be reprisals against specific employees who do vote for Obama.
That said, I wonder about the fall-out that would occur as a result of this going public should Romney win and Koch-related business still lay off employees for reasons such as "efficiency".
reformist2
(9,841 posts)After that letter, you'd have to have a screw loose to say anything positive about Obama in mixed company (read: Dems & Repubs), for fear that someone will rat you out to the boss as not loyal to the company.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)Would you want to have an Obama sign in your yard, knowing that if the wrong person sees it, there may be retaliation from the bosses?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)I suspect the "chilling effect" was in place long before that letter went out.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)LIKE HALLIBURTON, BLACKWATER, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_for_Sale:_The_War_Profiteers ?
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)LeftinOH
(5,354 posts)FSogol
(45,487 posts)and his clownish sidekick?
MineralMan
(146,315 posts)in the company parking lot is probably not wise, eh? Assholes they are.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)circling the wagons. It's a dirty trick to scare the employees. They won't know who anybody votes for.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)They DEFINITELY hate our freedoms!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)I have told all of my employees to vote Obama or there will be consequences.
Doesn't amount to much though as I have four employees and they're all voting Obama anyway!
tanyev
(42,559 posts)I'm reminded of the time the movie The Last Temptation of Christ came out. The pastor of the church I belonged to said during a Sunday morning sermon that nobody in the congregation should go see that movie--which was pretty unusual for that denomination, at least in my experience. I had not been planning on seeing the movie since my tastes run more to light comedies and chick flicks. But the second I heard him tell me from the pulpit that I shouldn't see that movie, I knew that I definitely had to see it for myself.
spanone
(135,838 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)Republican cronyism will leave his organization with such a cavity of unskilled incapable loyal Republican employees, he'll be forced to make the choice between loosing revenue or hiring 'the best employees' back.
sheshe2
(83,772 posts)The Koch Bros. et all are making me crazy. Do they really think that their S**T don't stink! I hope they loose their 400 plus million that they have sunk into this race. How many lifetimes would it take for them to spend all the money they have and how much more do they need? I just don't get it. They do not have an ounce of compassion in them, not one.They just want us losers to clean up the poop they leave on the sidewalk when they pass! In the end they breath the same polluted air that we do and are eating the same contaminated foods that deregulation has given us. I don't believe that they are human but hello they will die too. They do this in the name of the almighty dollar.... so sorry for yelling. I am very angry.
Omaha Steve
(99,642 posts)Good luck with that.
OS
lexw
(804 posts)In fact, I worked at a major motorcycle company as a graphic artist, and the head of the branch would send out memos suggesting employees they should vote the Republican ballot because it was better for the motorcycle businesshence their jobs. One time I was arguing with another employee about the upcoming Schwarzenegger election, and one of the top brass came walking down the hall and overheard me: he gave me a look from hell. Now that I think about it, not too long after that, my boss demoted my work load. Wow.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)a day in their lives think they're co-workers. GET REAL!
Trillo
(9,154 posts)and into everyones pockets: No more worries until the next election, no more homeless, no more hospital bills that can't be paid, no more mortgage forclosures and on and on, all because the gold rained from the clouds into everyone's pocket and everyone is an instant billionaire, and there's absolutely no price inflation to compensate.
Because there should be balancing consequences when their side wins.
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)THen Koch broke state law. Federal laws allow this type of communication to administrative management and executive level employees but is more restricted to rank and file.
kooljerk666
(776 posts)Someone in Colorado please call the FBI & start asking when you are allowed to hold someone, use local police to fuck with people and have an armed person force them into an airplane & take them across state lines.
I will be neat-o when I am allowed to do this w/o going to jail for 20+ years!!!!
Forbes magazine the rag for us 47% lazy deadbeats actually picked this up..........
http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2012/10/14/billionaire-william-koch-accused-of-kidnapping-and-imprisoning-executive-on-colorado-ranch/
oops already on DU here http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021543970
DU was 6th on my google "william koch oxbow kidnap" search so this story has leg & is moving fast.
I already called Sen Leahy & senate judiciary committee & am not sure who else to complain about this to.
google search results: https://www.google.com/search?q=william+koch+oxbow+kidnap&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&client=firefox-a
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)wtmusic
(39,166 posts)There is nothing illegal about this. The consequences they refer to are societal and it's the opinion of management - that's all.
"First and most important, we believe any decision about which candidates to support is - as always - yours and yours alone."
Mandatory disclaimer: the Kochs are corporatist pigs.
Now flame away.
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)Day in America for a National Work Stoppage!!! Just so I can say to Conservatives "YOU BUILT THIS"
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . funny how no employer in the past 32 years ever sends memos out to their employees warning of dire consequences as a result of voting Republican.
Also funny that, during the past 32 years, most of the country's dire economic circumstances and/or catastrophes happened during when? When? Bueller? Oh that's right, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENCIES.
Dots. Awesome when they're connected.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)RedCloud
(9,230 posts)DaveJ
(5,023 posts)In all these anti-democratic, un-American letters telling people how to vote, I have not seen any that point to a specific law Democrats have passed to justify their opinion. The closest I came looking at their packet, is reference to Obama's support of alternative energy. The Koch bro's may be getting old, and since they are greedy do not care if oil runs out in 30 years, but the some of us do care. At any rate, I've seen little in the way of facts and details so I'm just going to let this chart be my guide:
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)KICK!
Zorra
(27,670 posts)tclambert
(11,086 posts)"You employees will be exposed to continuous sounds of wailing, your socks may get wet, and you will have to watch out for Romney coffee mugs being thrown from the executive offices."
vaberella
(24,634 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)rasputinkhlyst
(62 posts)They should lose all their oil subsidies and all deductions and depreciation write offs for voter intimidation.
elbloggoZY27
(283 posts)This is really some outrageous rot. The GOP has been the culprit why no legislation has passed. Their Agenda is only a scam that twists the truth.
This is still the United States and we have a Constitution that lets you vote and without harassment.
Scare tactics will not work.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)The things they get away with like suppressing voters and threatening people to support your party...it's just plain criminal!