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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe defining moment of the debate.
In past elections there tends to be one defining moment of these debates that solidify in people's minds.
It's important to remember that the these debates usually turn on perception, not analysis.
Whether it's "There you go again" or "I feel your Pain" or looking at a watch in apparent boredom.
I am hoping that being reprimanded by the moderator for an obvious lie will be this one.
But "Binder full of woman" will do nicely as well.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)but the reprimand looked like a KO to me. And the way it dragged out was painful to watch. "Please proceed, governor..."
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)"WE.DON'T.DO.THAT."
The binder full of women was awfully ridiculous too, and
so were other moments. But the above was most
powerful, in my opinion.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Nail meet coffin.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)but the precise wording was exquisite.
"That's not what we do" -- that's why I like this Prez.
Integrity, pure and simple.
global1
(25,272 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)Obama's demeanor and tone of voice telegraphed that he considers Willard as he would a bug in the orange juice. The disdain was palpable.
Willard obviously thought Obama would rise to defend himself against the BS he was spewing, and Obama's retort put him completely off his game.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)he gave obama.
obama dressing him down in a blunt, listen here boy, this is the way it is as pres.... addressing meeting the caskets.
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)And then the moderator clearing the facts, Romney turned and walked away, he had not done that all night.
Inuca
(8,945 posts)@HuntsmanAbby
#Obama won debate as Commander in Chief, while #Romney struggled to express warmth or compassion. Binders aren't a way to a women's heart.
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)OBAMA: Secretary Clinton has done an extraordinary job. But she works for me. Im the president and Im always responsible, and thats why nobodys more interested in finding out exactly what happened than I do.
The day after the attack, governor, I stood in the Rose Garden and I told the American people in the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened. That this was an act of terror and I also said that were going to hunt down those who committed this crime.
And then a few days later, I was there greeting the caskets coming into Andrews Air Force Base and grieving with the families.
And the suggestion that anybody in my team, whether the Secretary of State, our U.N. Ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics or mislead when weve lost four of our own, governor, is offensive. Thats not what we do. Thats not what I do as president, thats not what I do as Commander in Chief.
CROWLEY: Governor, if you want to
ROMNEY: Yes, I I
CROWLEY: quickly to this please.
ROMNEY: I I think interesting the president just said something which which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.
OBAMA: Thats what I said.
ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror.
It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what youre saying?
OBAMA: Please proceed governor.
ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.
OBAMA: Get the transcript.
CROWLEY: It it it he did in fact, sir. So let me let me call it an act of terror
OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy?
CROWLEY: He he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.
ROMNEY: This the administration the administration indicated this was a reaction to a video and was a spontaneous reaction.
CROWLEY: It did.
ROMNEY: It took them a long time to say this was a terrorist act by a terrorist group. And to suggest am I incorrect in that regard, on Sunday, the your secretary
OBAMA: Candy?
ROMNEY: Excuse me. The ambassador of the United Nations went on the Sunday television shows and spoke about how
OBAMA: Candy, Im
ROMNEY: this was a spontaneous
CROWLEY: Mr. President, let me
OBAMA: Im happy to have a longer conversation
CROWLEY: I know you
OBAMA: about foreign policy
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)I went to a number of womens groups and said, Can you help us find folks, and they brought us whole binders full of women.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)I stood up and cheered & gave the air a left & right uppercut.