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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts) Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:37 PM Oct 2012

Do you Want to See what a truly Fake Focus Group looks like?

Frank Luntz assembled an honest to goodness FAKE focus group for Fox news of "undecided" former Obama voters who, after watching the debate, through some amazing coincidence, all support Romney as the man America needs.

"Undecided" has an interesting meaning here, since one of them says she never considered voting for Obama and was only undecided as to whether to vote for Romney or stay home. Another man says, on live TV, that he "feel for Obama's bull" in 2008, and that Obama is, "bullshitting the public." (Luntz apologizes for the language.)

The entire first row of this group of "undecided" voters recites literal RW talking points with a speed and chorus-line precision that would shame professional surrogates.

"Forceful, compassionate, presidential," one participant said.
"Confident and realistic," said another.
"Presidential," another told Luntz.
"Enthusiastic," another reacted.
"Our next president," one man said.
"Dynamo, winner," said one more.

The audience at an infomercial taping is more sincere than these people.

Most of these people are ready to spit in Obama's face. They have never hated anyone so much... despite having been undecided only 90 minutes earlier and then spending that 90 minutes watching the best political performance of Obama's career.

It is too funny.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/16/luntz_focus_group_of_mostly_former_obama_voters_switch_to_romney.html

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Do you Want to See what a truly Fake Focus Group looks like? (Original Post) cthulu2016 Oct 2012 OP

Bill Maher is the only person I've ever seen call him on his Skidmore Oct 2012 #1

Did you see the interview last week? The guy lied to Bill's face multiple times!! Initech Oct 2012 #3

Luntz is a Poster Child for Pathological GOP Liars We People Oct 2012 #14

Republicans do not care about reality, only power. They are fascists. nt patrice Oct 2012 #2

Big-time truth oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #5

It's really weird, because this same trait makes them bad for business. Businesses should adapt & patrice Oct 2012 #6

Lying is a core family value for the GOP. They are all Ayn Rand desciples. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #4

Luntz fools no one, but he does appease the ignorant, desperate fools on the far right... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #7

It was all white people. How fair and balanced is that. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #8

Too bad they're only preaching to the choir Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #9

Too bad they're only preaching to the choir? GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #12

??? Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #13

Inside the right wing echo chamber. Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #10

That's because their heads explode if and when they hear the truth We People Oct 2012 #15

Fox News is moving from simply biased to seriously demented. reformist2 Oct 2012 #11

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)

1. Bill Maher is the only person I've ever seen call him on his

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:38 PM

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frauds.

Initech

(100,104 posts)

3. Did you see the interview last week? The guy lied to Bill's face multiple times!!

Reply to Skidmore (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:44 PM

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We People

(619 posts)

14. Luntz is a Poster Child for Pathological GOP Liars

Reply to Initech (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:15 PM

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That is, one of many within the ranks of their leadership

patrice

(47,992 posts)

2. Republicans do not care about reality, only power. They are fascists. nt

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:44 PM

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oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)

5. Big-time truth

Reply to patrice (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:48 PM

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in fact the truth here is... HUGH!!!

patrice

(47,992 posts)

6. It's really weird, because this same trait makes them bad for business. Businesses should adapt &

Reply to oswaldactedalone (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:00 PM

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evolve, but when they're front loaded with folks who are there for the quickest biggest profits and bonuses, in many cases for the least amount of effort, possible and who protect their own positions by propagating OTHER positions/systems who are/do the SAME thing, you end up with systems that are anti-adaptation, systems that discount the hallmarks of sustainability generated by anything outside of their own self-defined mono-culture. "Little" bits and bytes of data that are troublesome or contradictory are classified as anomalous and assigned a valence of 0. It's not funny to think about what this means in terms of the true costs of things to everyone.

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)

4. Lying is a core family value for the GOP. They are all Ayn Rand desciples. nt

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:47 PM

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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)

7. Luntz fools no one, but he does appease the ignorant, desperate fools on the far right...

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:02 PM

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You know what I find most revealing about these concocted, right-wing, highly orchestrated games--like the "Luntz undecided focus group? The Republicans must have anticipated that Obama would do well and Romney would need a fake focus groups to prop him up. You don't pre-plan this type of lie-based theater unless you know you're going to need it.

This also underscores the point that Fox News viewers are just so gullible. An average person would listen to that focus group and know that it was rigged. These Fox News freaks don't even notice how fake it is. They just lap it up like Pavlovian dogs, "Oh yes! Yes! Mitt is winning! This really confirms it!"

No, you fools. It confirms that your side is losing, and that they knew they had to lie to give the appearance of a win.

The idiocy is blinding!

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

8. It was all white people. How fair and balanced is that.

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:24 PM

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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

9. Too bad they're only preaching to the choir

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:29 PM

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The only people who saw that are Faux Newz viewers who will vote for Romney anyways.

Also, they're pretty much all white and middle-aged or older. Hardly representative of America.

What a joke.

GeorgeGist

(25,323 posts)

12. Too bad they're only preaching to the choir?

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:39 PM

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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

13. ???

Reply to GeorgeGist (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:54 PM

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Don't you agree that the only people watching that bullshit focus group are the Faux Newz zombies?

Blue Idaho

(5,057 posts)

10. Inside the right wing echo chamber.

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:34 PM

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No wonder the lunatic extremist conservatives believe in conspiracy theories - the are force fed a diet of convenient lies and preposterous propaganda by their right wing media machine.

They are incapable of hearing the truth.

We People

(619 posts)

15. That's because their heads explode if and when they hear the truth

Reply to Blue Idaho (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:20 PM

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...Cognitive Dissonance being one of their chronic problems

reformist2

(9,841 posts)

11. Fox News is moving from simply biased to seriously demented.

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:39 PM

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