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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh, No! "77% likelihood Romney wins popular vote, according to famous U of Colorado study"
From MFW's latest delusional email
The poll has accurately predicted every presidential election since it was developed in 1980. It is unique in that it employs factors outside of state economic indicators to predict the next president.
CU Political Science Professor Dr. Michael Berry, who spoke with Campus Reform at length on Tuesday, said there is at least 77 percent chance that Romney will win the popular vote.
Professor Michael Berry from the University of Colorado told Campus Reform in an exclusive interview that there is a 77 percent chance Romney will win the popular vote.
Our model indicates that Governor Romney has a 77 percent likelihood of winning the popular vote, said Berry.
http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4435
Have a look at the source page & the other articles on this site. (Snork.)
aquart
(69,014 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I just chalk it up to more RW delusional nonsense. I was kinda amused by some of the other stories, though.
"GWU PROF DECORATES OFFICE WITH PHOTOS OF COMMUNIST DICTATORS RESPONSIBLE FOR THOUSANDS OF MURDERS"
"UNIVERSITY OF CA SPENDS $80K ON SOCIALISM PROJECT"
"STUDENT SPEAKS OUT OVER HARVARD UNIVERSITYS ANNUAL INCEST-FEST PARTY"
edhopper
(33,625 posts)Why should i trust it?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/23/1123481/-Nate-Silver-Calls-B-S-on-U-of-Colorado-Election-Prediction-Model
And according to ABCNews these were "retroactive" predictions.
I call bullshit.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)to suggest that it may not be entirely trustworthy?
edhopper
(33,625 posts)missed the "Snork"
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)It is a right wing site.
Here's the first paragraph of their mission statement:
"CampusReform.org is designed to provide conservative activists with the resources, networking capabilities, and skills they need to revolutionize the struggle against leftist bias and abuse on college campuses."
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I (obviously) didn't accept the story at face value & now I know why.
surrealAmerican
(11,364 posts)... That's kind of like "future history".
edhopper
(33,625 posts)retroactive resignation from Bain.
S_E_Fudd
(1,295 posts)Both of which have longer track records of accurate predictions say Obama wins...
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)frazee
(61 posts)has never predicted anything correctly...only retrodicted past results. With multivariate models, it's very easy to manipulate to one's liking. Weight a variable here, omit a variable there. They're also notoriously unstable. Include a seemingly innocuous variable, or omit one, and the results can be dramatically different.
Social scientists also commonly abuse or simply misunderstand statistical results, especially of the multivariate variety. As a social scientist who works commonly with multivariate statistics, I am always wary of the pitfalls of seemingly "good" results. I wouldn't worry about this.
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)Brought to you by Colorado University?
RagAss
(13,832 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,822 posts)a stronger warning...now I am going to have to shower twice with lots of exfoliant and then repeat...yuck. SOMEBODY GET ME A LOOFA!!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)As noted above, you can fit anything to a set of data in retrospect. Give me ten variables, a set of historical outcomes, and I'll come up with a formula that fits those variables to those outcomes.
But what strikes me as funnier than that is the notion of a formula that provides a probability of a binary event with "perfect accuracy". What is that even supposed to mean? If I predict an outcome of X with a probability of 90%, then is my model "inaccurate" if X does not occur? The non-occurrence of X was merely a manifestation of the 10% probability that X would not occur.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)to wipe all that egg off their face after the results come in.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)The model predicted a Romney PV win. The vote didn't match the prediction. This is proof that the Socialist Muslim Uppity Kenyan forces stole the election.
Q.E.D.
spanone
(135,886 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)For any curve, you can fit a precise regression line if you allow enough variables.
There's nothing wrong with retroactively fitting a curve as long as you classify the result as an unverified hypothesis and then conduct prospective research to confirm it.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Because there are a lot of fucking goobers in states where it won't matter how much Rmoney wins by.
But that doesn't win you the election.
Bucky
(54,084 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)And every time you try to mention 2000......"STOP BLAMING OUR LORD AND SAVIOR GEORGE DUBYA BUSH FOR EVERYTHING YOU COMMIE BASTARD"!!!