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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:36 PM Oct 2012

Oh, No! "77% likelihood Romney wins popular vote, according to famous U of Colorado study"

From MFW's latest delusional email

The University of Colorado (CU) prediction renowned for perfect accuracy will predict a popular-vote win for Mitt Romney later this month, Campus Reform has learned.

The poll has accurately predicted every presidential election since it was developed in 1980. It is unique in that it employs factors outside of state economic indicators to predict the next president.

CU Political Science Professor Dr. Michael Berry, who spoke with Campus Reform at length on Tuesday, said there is at least 77 percent chance that Romney will win the popular vote.

Professor Michael Berry from the University of Colorado told Campus Reform in an exclusive interview that there is a 77 percent chance Romney will win the popular vote.
“Our model indicates that Governor Romney has a 77 percent likelihood of winning the popular vote,” said Berry.


http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4435

Have a look at the source page & the other articles on this site. (Snork.)
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Oh, No! "77% likelihood Romney wins popular vote, according to famous U of Colorado study" (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 OP
How? aquart Oct 2012 #1
Beats the crap out of me. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #4
Seems to be a right wing site. edhopper Oct 2012 #2
Did I fail to give sufficient clues Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #5
Sorry edhopper Oct 2012 #6
You shouldn't. Ganja Ninja Oct 2012 #8
Thanks for the Kos link. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #9
"retroactive predictions"? ... surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #16
Or Romney's edhopper Oct 2012 #17
Prof. Lichtman's 13 keys and the Scholastica Poll of Students... S_E_Fudd Oct 2012 #3
And lose the electoral vote. Isn't this what Al Gore did? kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #7
It's important to understand that the CU model frazee Oct 2012 #10
I predict that wheat will become a major global agricultural product! Care Acutely Oct 2012 #13
Your football team sucks too ! RagAss Oct 2012 #11
I wish you had littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #12
This is even dumber than it looks jberryhill Oct 2012 #14
They're gonna need a truckload of Koch's paper towels ... lpbk2713 Oct 2012 #15
Nope. They already have a cover story for that: Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #19
is there drinking involved? spanone Oct 2012 #18
Retroactive "predictions" are usually pseudoscience. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #20
Indeed. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #21
That and $1.25 will get him a cup of coffee....nt SidDithers Oct 2012 #22
It's entirely possible he does win the popular vote, however.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #23
I'm gonna love it if we have a reverse 2000 Bucky Oct 2012 #24
Wait for the cries of "THEY STOLE IT FROM US!!!" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #25

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
4. Beats the crap out of me.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:44 PM
Oct 2012

I just chalk it up to more RW delusional nonsense. I was kinda amused by some of the other stories, though.

"GWU PROF DECORATES OFFICE WITH PHOTOS OF COMMUNIST DICTATORS RESPONSIBLE FOR THOUSANDS OF MURDERS"

"UNIVERSITY OF CA SPENDS $80K ON SOCIALISM PROJECT"

"STUDENT SPEAKS OUT OVER HARVARD UNIVERSITY’S ANNUAL ‘INCEST-FEST’ PARTY"

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
8. You shouldn't.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012

It is a right wing site.

Here's the first paragraph of their mission statement:

"CampusReform.org is designed to provide conservative activists with the resources, networking capabilities, and skills they need to revolutionize the struggle against leftist bias and abuse on college campuses."

S_E_Fudd

(1,295 posts)
3. Prof. Lichtman's 13 keys and the Scholastica Poll of Students...
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:42 PM
Oct 2012

Both of which have longer track records of accurate predictions say Obama wins...

frazee

(61 posts)
10. It's important to understand that the CU model
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:55 PM
Oct 2012

has never predicted anything correctly...only retrodicted past results. With multivariate models, it's very easy to manipulate to one's liking. Weight a variable here, omit a variable there. They're also notoriously unstable. Include a seemingly innocuous variable, or omit one, and the results can be dramatically different.

Social scientists also commonly abuse or simply misunderstand statistical results, especially of the multivariate variety. As a social scientist who works commonly with multivariate statistics, I am always wary of the pitfalls of seemingly "good" results. I wouldn't worry about this.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
13. I predict that wheat will become a major global agricultural product!
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:17 PM
Oct 2012

Brought to you by Colorado University?

littlemissmartypants

(22,822 posts)
12. I wish you had
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:58 PM
Oct 2012

a stronger warning...now I am going to have to shower twice with lots of exfoliant and then repeat...yuck. SOMEBODY GET ME A LOOFA!!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. This is even dumber than it looks
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:32 PM
Oct 2012

As noted above, you can fit anything to a set of data in retrospect. Give me ten variables, a set of historical outcomes, and I'll come up with a formula that fits those variables to those outcomes.

But what strikes me as funnier than that is the notion of a formula that provides a probability of a binary event with "perfect accuracy". What is that even supposed to mean? If I predict an outcome of X with a probability of 90%, then is my model "inaccurate" if X does not occur? The non-occurrence of X was merely a manifestation of the 10% probability that X would not occur.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
15. They're gonna need a truckload of Koch's paper towels ...
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:36 PM
Oct 2012


to wipe all that egg off their face after the results come in.




Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. Nope. They already have a cover story for that:
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 09:58 PM
Oct 2012

The model predicted a Romney PV win. The vote didn't match the prediction. This is proof that the Socialist Muslim Uppity Kenyan forces stole the election.


Q.E.D.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
21. Indeed.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 08:44 AM
Oct 2012

For any curve, you can fit a precise regression line if you allow enough variables.

There's nothing wrong with retroactively fitting a curve as long as you classify the result as an unverified hypothesis and then conduct prospective research to confirm it.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
23. It's entirely possible he does win the popular vote, however....
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:01 AM
Oct 2012

Because there are a lot of fucking goobers in states where it won't matter how much Rmoney wins by.

But that doesn't win you the election.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
25. Wait for the cries of "THEY STOLE IT FROM US!!!"
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:16 AM
Oct 2012

And every time you try to mention 2000......"STOP BLAMING OUR LORD AND SAVIOR GEORGE DUBYA BUSH FOR EVERYTHING YOU COMMIE BASTARD"!!!

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