And I don't think it's accurate, or possibly even in the Book of Psalms. I seem to remember a couple o years ago where it was shown to be a distortion of what an actual passage was.

Signed and passed on.

an apology and for him to lose the favor of his constituents.

If you disagree, I am open for debate.

Pepperoni or sausage?

Sure say love a lot , that is foreign to GOP thinking !

Good

And I will be passing this link around to other websites I frequent. This is unacceptable, I'm a Christian myself and any Christian knows you pray for the best of even those you consider your enemy. He cannot get away with using the Holy Bible to spread hate and racism. This is another reason Obama cannot lose in 2012. I don't want to see evil people like this guy and there are many of them, celebrating a Mittens victory in Nov.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

it's protected. Is your love of liberty so superficial that, when someone happens to dissent- even if that dissent is in the form of a prayer asking for someone's death- it should be silenced. There is a name for that, and it is called 'Authoritarianism', it is a free speech that allows only agreement.

Let's ask Dr. Tiller what religious extremism can lead to.

Oh, that's right, HE'S DEAD!

Dead due to a religious asshole who takes his marching orders from the religious nutjobs.

Thou shall not kill, my ass!

Action =/= Words

People tend to forget that sometimes. We are not in the business of punishing people for the potential to harm someone. Religious Nutjobs have the right to be nutjobs, so long as nobodyelse's right to live as they please is infringed. Certainly Obama is not any closer to getting killed because an email from some backwater Politician who wants the Big bearded guy to throw a lighting bolt at Obama is being circulated.

I want no part of it!

Stay out of our lives!

If he were a Muslim you would expect the entire Islamic community to disown the statements, like we expected all Muslims to do after 9-11.

Christians are too perfect for that. I really hope there is a God so he can bitch slap the zealots and then kick them to hell.

but he is still free to say it, even if he were a Moslem. And he should be able to say it, and not be punished for it. Just because he holds a public office, doesn't mean his right somehow dissappears.

They took this man's guns away when Obama came to Kansas.

http://www.salina.com/news/story/Jednoralski

So yes, we ARE in the business of punishing people for the potential of doing harm to the president.

him? Then you are limiting our rights to free speech.

because he prays for the President's death. We think that's wrong for a Speaker of the House, not his right to say it.

and we are free to disagree with him, shake our heads at the backwardness of the state of Kansas, and recall a time when they forced public schools to teach Creationism.

is part of that.

"As people of faith, we believe that scripture should never be used to justify praying for the death of anyone. Speaker O'Neal's hateful abuse of scripture is unacceptable and a disgrace to his office, and he should immediately resign. "

for exercising his liberty, no matter how much you disagrees with it.

Love , love , LOVE , love , luv , love !

Yes. Freedom of speech also has consequences that are not protected.

And Mr. O'Neal is perfectly free to say anything that crosses his mean little mind. The people of the State of Kansas, however, also have the right not to have this knucklehead in a position of privilege and authority. Removing him from office doesn't stop him from speaking anything he wants.

No law is being proposed, nobody's speech is being legally abridged. You seem confused.

My point is, there is no good reason to abridge his right for saying this, for trying to punish him for exercising his rights, even if he uses his rights to send hateful messages, and the people of Kansas have the right to vote him in or out, according to their own opinion. If they did not want him, they have the right to vote him out. Not everyone is a Liberal, a Progressive, not everyone agrees with you. If the people in Kansas agree with him, they have the right to keep him in office, if you disagree with him, then you are more than welcomed to do so. I disagree with him, but I do not think he should lose his job over spreading this e-mail, and I do not think he should be punished for exercising his liberty.

Because when you quote the First Amendment, you're talking about Congress and passing laws, and that's simply not happening here. Nobody is lobbying the United States Congress, no bills are being introduced, and no laws are being considered. The Speaker of the Kansas House is being told in no uncertain terms that his hate speech is unacceptable for someone in his position. If he wants to continue to cast himself in the role of David the King, and pretend that President Obama has somehow impugned his reputation and wrongfully accused him, he's perfectly free to do that. Just not from his privileged position that comes with just a smidgen of responsibility.

he is free to speak, and if his constituents do not like that, they are free to vote him out. That is how our system works. It is wrong of him to say that, but, despite his position, he is still free to say that.

Therefore your point seems completely invalid.

The United States Government has no business whatever trying to make it illegal to say what this man did. And they won't. However the things we say DO have consequences far beyond potential federal prosecutions. No one is suggesting this man should go to jail, merely that he is not fit to hold public office and should be shamed into resigning. I would expect any such effort to be fruitless, as he has already demonstrated that he and shame are not on speaking terms.

He represents his constituents, and should not be punished for exercising his rights. If the people of Kansas dislike him, then it is their duty to vote him out. Many politicians say stupid things, many politicians are, by your standards, 'unfit for office', those redneck politicians with the guns and God, and saying things like Christianity is our national religion and all that. They are elected because the people agree with them, and, if they are voted out, it is because the people disagrees with them. You are trying to force him out of his job because you don't agree with him, he should only be kicked out of his office if his constituents do not agree with him. That is called Democracy, something of which I am a big fan.

Now that he has said his piece, let him be reduced to saying it as a private citizen, not as Speaker of the State House.

This type of thing from a public official is not only unacceptable, but it is dangerous as well. There are an awful lot of nutcases who could easily try to please Mr. Speaker.

No one is suggesting the guy should be imprisoned. There's no law against spewing hateful speech, but that doesn't mean that people can't SPEAK BACK, in this case calling on the guy to resign.

Another consequence to hate speech is that the electorate can vote the creep out. People can also mock him, dismiss him, hector him ... it's all in the Constitution, baby.

You people who cling to your free speech at any cost idolatry are seriously myopic. The courts have found many limitations that can be placed on free speech and are upheld--because sometimes people's "speech" infringes on other peoples' rights. So you can scream obscenities at a woman who is entering an abortion clinic, but you're going to have to do it from a distance--not into her face at the door. You can have a rally or parade to express your views, but you're probably going to have to get a permit for it, if it's of a certain size, to authorize the place and length of the rally: because the rest of the citizens have rights, too: the right to get to work, or go to sleep at night (no bullhorns at 3 am declaring your "free speech" rights), or just to use the street.

Thank you so much for spreading the word. KnR.

Then they can pray for whatever the hell they want.

Keep your God Damned religion out of politics or pay for the right to excersize this protected right.

O' Neal can believe what he wants, I believe he's a hateful douche!

But that's as much as I'm allowed to say.

My state of Cali is going broke .
I see SUVs BMWs some really expensive cars in church parking lots , your telling me that these people's would stop supporting their holy houses if we got our fair share with taxes ? They would walk away from gawd ?? Churches everywhere paying their fair share might just help our nation now that the GOP has set-up the good Ol' USA
to fail while they nash their teeth in
Free worshipp !
Fairness doesn't matter !
It's envy !
Right !

of my state

Stop
The madness !

mike.oneal@house.ks.gov