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UTUSN

(70,744 posts) Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:30 PM Oct 2012

My e-mail exchange with the local radio wingnut over the debate and his Libya last hope

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Re, your: “Obama wins on points. But watch for [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]the Libya thing[/FONT] to come back. His recitation of the facts neglected to mention that they kept blaming the attack on the video while they had information that it was terrorism and had nothing to do with the video. Why Romney missed the chance to drive that home is beyond me.”

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I replied:

I’ve said to you many times before that I often can’t decide whether you really believe your wingnut stuff or whether you are pulling my leg. You [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]REGURGITATE[/FONT] establishment official [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]propaganda WHOLE[/FONT]. I distinctly remember how you would PARROT every week’s Shrub-CHEENEE’s different “reason” for invading Iraq. Every week there was a new “reason” to see which one would STICK, everything from “He tried to kill my daddy” to 9-11 to WMD to democracy-in-Arabia, and no matter what it was, you would trot it all out on cue.

Finally, you came up with one that I’m crediting originally to you, although you might have been fed that one, too: “We need to KICK SOME ARAB BUTT.”

********NOW, to this flim-flam Libya thing. Read each one of these points (and they’re MINE, not talking points from above) until they sink into your wingnut skull:

* First and foremost, wingnuts took an oath when OBAMA was sworn in to OBSTRUCT everything period, and when the [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"][font size=5]TeaBaggers[/FONT] [/FONT] took power in 2010, they [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"][font size=5]CUT THE FUNDING FOR State dept SECURITY[/FONT] [/FONT]. Let it sink in.

* You wingnuts “decide” things based on your preconceived ideological knee-jerking. When it was happening, all of you had already decided to oppose anything OBAMA would say about it. OBAMA-RICE-Hillary SAID what they [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]KNEW AT THE TIME[/FONT]. That movie video was HOT all over the media and there WERE riots IN THE REGION. Besides that, sometimes, since you’re so big on spy novels, there are things that CAN’T BE TALKED ABOUT.

* Your holy [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]RAYGUN had 299[/font][/FONT] (TWO HUNDRED NINETY NINE) marines and other personnel BLOWN UP in Beirut and he promptly CUT AND RAN.

* Sometimes [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]SHIT HAPPENS[/FONT]. Get it?!

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My e-mail exchange with the local radio wingnut over the debate and his Libya last hope (Original Post) UTUSN Oct 2012 OP

You need to add... sadbear Oct 2012 #1

Thanks. He & I have been dueling for years, so I'll have plenty of opportunity to add it. n/t UTUSN Oct 2012 #2

Thumbs up! Catherine Vincent Oct 2012 #3

"But watch for the Libya thing to come back" BlueStreak Oct 2012 #4

The bigger part of the F&F story ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #5

Right, but it wouldn't have made any difference because BlueStreak Oct 2012 #7

It confuses me as well KansDem Oct 2012 #6

Farewell kick to this thread for all the lovely/glorious/erudite posters n/t UTUSN Oct 2012 #8

Quoi? GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #9

Rec malaise Oct 2012 #10

sadbear

(4,340 posts)

1. You need to add...

Reply to UTUSN (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:34 PM

Oct 2012

that when US officials asked for more security in Libya, they wanted it in Tripoli, not Benghazi.

UTUSN

(70,744 posts)

2. Thanks. He & I have been dueling for years, so I'll have plenty of opportunity to add it. n/t

Reply to sadbear (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:37 PM

Oct 2012

Catherine Vincent

(34,491 posts)

3. Thumbs up!

Reply to UTUSN (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:37 PM

Oct 2012

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)

4. "But watch for the Libya thing to come back"

Reply to UTUSN (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:42 PM

Oct 2012

I just don't get this at all. This seems like the Fast & Furious thing.

In Fast & Furious, our agents were trying to prosecute gun runners and the NRA-sponsored laws made it such that no prosecutors would press charges. That's basically the whole story.

In the cast of Benghazi, there was some confusion for a few days about exactly how well planned the attack was and exactly how much it related to the youtube protests. How can that be a big issue? Is that seriously the thing they want to hang their whole campaign on now? I'd say, let them.

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)

5. The bigger part of the F&F story ...

Reply to BlueStreak (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:54 PM

Oct 2012

that never seems to get told is, the only confirmed instance where guns where actually allowed to walk (i.e., the DOJ did not know where the guns went) involved the agent that was Issa's "whistle-blower" ... He knew the kid was a straw-buyer, he watched the kid purchase the weapons, he watched the kid load the weapons, then took off for a 4 day vacation ... without telling anyone about the transaction.

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)

7. Right, but it wouldn't have made any difference because

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:22 PM

Oct 2012

they couldn't get anybody to prosecute anyway.

The only story here is that the agents wasted their time trying to arrest people and never could get any prosecutions.

I am glad they at least tried, but I guess somebody could say that was a waste of government resources.

Beyond that, there is no story at all.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)

6. It confuses me as well

Reply to BlueStreak (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:07 PM

Oct 2012

What's with these people?

Hey, GOPers! Remember about 11 years ago when we were attacked by friends and business partners of the Bush Family? Remember how Bush sat on his butt and did nothing with Card came into the classroom where he was doing a photo op and told him we were under attack? Remember how he invaded the wrong country; a country that had nothing to do with 9/11? Remember how Bush told an audience that he learned of the first plane hitting the WTC by watching it on TV, then he told National Geographic that he learned of the first plane hitting the WTC when he was told about it?

And all you have on Obama is "Did he mean 'Attack by terrorists' or 'Terrorist attack?'"

These GOPers are so full of shit!!!

They are indeed desperate.

Perhaps a new term could be invented to describe their mindset: "Despershite"