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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:40 PM Oct 2012

How important is this election??

Judging from the money spent, from the anxiety level, and from the knock-out debates, one could assume it is a very important election. And that would be correct.

Nothing less than the survival of our government, as we have known it for the last 75 years, is at stake. Social Security, Medicare, and programs that many people take for granted, are at risk.

A radical movement has taken over a major political Party (Republican) and have vowed to cut government at any cost and to never raise a penny of taxes for anything. This is one of the most radical ideas in the history of our country. Even George Washington and Abe Lincoln saw the need to raise taxes in some situations, such as war. But this bunch of misguided misfits believe we can fight wars without paying for them. They proved it with George W Bush in the last decade when they almost destroyed our country with debt and deregulation.

But they also believe in an economic system where most of the wealth will go to the top and leave the masses to suffer the consequences. It is no small matter. This election is of utmost importance.

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How important is this election?? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2012 OP
Supreme Court still_one Oct 2012 #1
Amen! sevenseas Oct 2012 #3
I think that it's very important to the entire world, not just the US. Romney and teddy51 Oct 2012 #2
perhaps they recognize barbtries Oct 2012 #4
It is very important. There are 4 SC judges that are pretty old. notadmblnd Oct 2012 #5
i'm afraid i put it in the "not very" category. unblock Oct 2012 #6
I understand where you are coming from... kentuck Oct 2012 #7
This election will determine the long term political trajectory of the US for a generation. craigmatic Oct 2012 #8

sevenseas

(114 posts)
3. Amen!
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:45 PM
Oct 2012

And that is the main reason I fear the Far Reich will either find a way to steal this election, or worse.

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
2. I think that it's very important to the entire world, not just the US. Romney and
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:43 PM
Oct 2012

and his team of Neo-cons could very well start WW3 if he is elected. He has no qualms about attacking Iran or China.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
4. perhaps they recognize
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:46 PM
Oct 2012

their increasing irrelevance. if the choice is between winning or going extinct that might explain the radical push and incredible spending going on, to a degree anyway.
i don't think i've been this nervous before an election. actually that's bullshit: 2008. we just need to win again, and to win by enough that the republicans cannot pull off a steal. though i think it quite possible that if they attempt to steal it, chaos in the streets would result. my own boss said there would be an arab spring in the USA if romney steals the election.

i agree with you kentuck: this is a very important election.

unblock

(52,332 posts)
6. i'm afraid i put it in the "not very" category.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:49 PM
Oct 2012

oh, sure, there's a huge difference between the two candidates, but for starters i expect congress to be divided, so neither candidate would be able to accomplish much legislatively, at least for 2, probably 4 years (the incumbent party often loses seats in congress in mid-term elections, to wit, 2014).

most importantly, i think in the long run we'll view obama's 8 years in much the same way clinton's were -- a temporary stalling of the right-wing agenda.

yes, the economy and the budget and the poor will all fare better under obama, and yes that matters.

but in the long run, the eventually i fear the right-wing will take their share one way or another. at a minimum, the things that need to happen to prevent this are much bigger than merely getting the right president in office.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
7. I understand where you are coming from...
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

But the difference now and when Bill Clinton left office is a much different world. We are on much shakier ground at the present. Events can be unpredictable. When people don't have food or jobs, then can tend to get a little angry. We truly do not know what the future holds. But we can see a way that it would be much worse.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
8. This election will determine the long term political trajectory of the US for a generation.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:02 PM
Oct 2012

Demographics are changing. Young people are more liberal and the old are more conservative. We need to win to cement Obama's achievements in place. Then we need to win in 2016 to make sure that people forget about reaganism. Obama isn't just the first black president he's the first northern democartic senator to win since JFK. This is the kind of democrat we can build a long term political coalition around like FDR. All that depends on the outcome of the election. We need to reduce the republicans to a minority party permanently.

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