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(946 posts)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:02 PM Oct 2012

Obama and the “Angry Black Man” Factor

From the New Yorker
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Here’s one thing I didn’t mention in my earlier post about Obama’s fiery showing last night. For years now, there has been a popular theory, albeit one recited more often over dinner tables than in op-ed columns, that the reason Obama plays it so cool is that he fears alienating white voters by coming across as an angry African-American male. Back in the summer, Ta-Nehisi Coates, a senior editor at The Atlantic, broke with the reticence about discussing this subject publicly. In a widely discussed essay entitled “Fear of a Black President,” Coates wrote,

Part of Obama’s genius is a remarkable ability to soothe race consciousness among whites. Any black person who’s worked in the professional world is well acquainted with this trick. But never has it been practiced at such a high level, and never have its limits been so obviously exposed. This need to talk in dulcet tones, to never be angry regardless of the offense, bespeaks a strange and compromised integration indeed, revealing a country so infantile that it can countenance white acceptance of blacks only when they meet an Al Roker standard.


After Obama’s subdued performance in the first debate, the reticence about promulgating the race theory seemed to go away, especially among liberal commentators—something noted in a piece on the conservative site FrontPageMag.com. Michael Moore suggested that the dredging up of an old video of Obama talking to a black crowd at Hampton University in 2007 had intimidated Obama. “For the past 2 days, the Right has been pounding their ‘Obama is an angry black man video.’ Did this affect O, that he had to appear timid?” Moore tweeted. Bill Maher seconded the race theory as an explanation for Obama’s low-key demeanor, saying, “Maybe what is in his mind is, ‘Look, I can never look like the angry black man.’ ” And Michael Eric Dyson, a professor of sociology at Georgetown, told MSNBC, “Lest we forget this, lest we pretend this doesn’t make a difference, the specter hanging over him is: ‘I can’t come off as too vigorous because then it looks like I’m being an angry black man.’ ”

It isn’t my intention here to discuss how far the fear of alienating white voters goes in explaining Obama’s behavior, either in general or in Denver specifically. Until the President addresses the subject directly, which probably won’t be until he publishes his memoir, it is impossible to know. Even Obama himself might not be able to give a full answer. It is a simple fact of arithmetic that any politician from any minority group, not just an African-American, who aspires to national office has to avoid offending the majority. The obvious way to do this is by endeavoring not to appear too strident or bellicose. For most successful minority politicians, after a while, it becomes second nature.

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Obama and the “Angry Black Man” Factor (Original Post) bloomington-lib Oct 2012 OP
I've never understood this whole "fear of the angry black man" meme. Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #1
Do you live in a big city or out in the suburbs? Bucky Oct 2012 #6
I think that if President Obama were an 'Angry Black Man' it's lunatica Oct 2012 #2
Polite to a fault black man. Bucky Oct 2012 #7
I don't agree that he's polite to a fault lunatica Oct 2012 #9
White male = assertive Black Male = Aggressive HipChick Oct 2012 #3
I think the fear is overstated. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #4
I agree completely. whathehell Oct 2012 #5
"angry black man" is a plus tnvoter Oct 2012 #8
That's not Angry Black Man lunatica Oct 2012 #10
One step toward understanding it is to look at TV and film production loyalsister Oct 2012 #11

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. I've never understood this whole "fear of the angry black man" meme.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oct 2012

Why on earth does a black man have less right to get angry than a white man? Especially when confronted with someone as despicable as Romney?

Bucky

(54,084 posts)
6. Do you live in a big city or out in the suburbs?
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:13 PM
Oct 2012

You might just live a life sheltered from the deep racist impulses lurking under the surface in our national subconscience. Congratulations. I used to also. But when you hear crazy paranoid, borderline racist shit from people you thought were liberals, you start to realize that those demons lurk long after they're socially acceptable to acknowledge. There are otherwise goodhearted people who, when they see a black kid, they see a potential mugger. There are also many real conservatives out there who are capable of seeing people as people, so I hope I don't over generalize. The idea that all opposition to President Obama is based on racism is equally wrong... and is in fact often rooted in the same inability of some humans (Democrats in this case) to see beyond race even when looking at the leader of the free world.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. I think that if President Obama were an 'Angry Black Man' it's
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oct 2012

exactly what he would act like. He simply isn't an angry black man.

Mitt Romney is an 'Angry White Man' and he acts it out all the time. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck are 'Angry White Men' too. They're angry at all the races who aren't white and at women and gays.

Bucky

(54,084 posts)
7. Polite to a fault black man.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:15 PM
Oct 2012

I swear to God, I honestly believe he thinks that if he whips Romney's tail in these elections, he'll finally convince the Republicans to start cutting even handed bipartisan deals with him.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. I don't agree that he's polite to a fault
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:23 PM
Oct 2012

He's managed to get us going in the right direction against odds that no other President has ever had to face. He doesn't think in instant gratification. He thinks in solving problems so they are fixed into the far future.

He's thinking in the kind of country he wants to leave for his daughters. He believes in laying the foundation. The cornerstone that others after him can build on.

After he's finished in his second term he will devote his life to making this world a better place.

And I'm not saying he's perfect. I'm saying he thinks about long term solutions. He doesn't think about short term political gains for himself. I doubt he'll stay in government after he's done his time as President. I believe he will go international and work very hard. A lot like Clinton. Or at least I hope so.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
3. White male = assertive Black Male = Aggressive
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:09 PM
Oct 2012

If Obama had acted the way Romney has been, bullying and combative, he would have been labelled ABM and aggressive.. Romney is labelled as taking command,assertive..double fucking standards at play

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. I think the fear is overstated.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:21 PM
Oct 2012

Any voter who'd freak out over Obama being an "angry black man" is almost certainly a racist brain stem who'd never vote for Obama anyways.

I'd say Obama has little to lose from displaying some righteous anger.

whathehell

(29,095 posts)
5. I agree completely.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:03 PM
Oct 2012

While that fear may have had some currency in the '08 election, the man has

been President for the last three plus years..He doesn't have to fear that shit anymore,

not in my opinion.

tnvoter

(257 posts)
8. "angry black man" is a plus
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:23 PM
Oct 2012

in my mind. I like it when Obama shows indignity and take offense to lies.

Anyone who has been bullied can appreciate a "fighter" who swings back.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. That's not Angry Black Man
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:27 PM
Oct 2012

Think Malcolm X if you want to think of what Angry Black Man means. And Malcolm X certainly made a difference.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
11. One step toward understanding it is to look at TV and film production
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:27 PM
Oct 2012

The angry black man stereotype runs rampant is the entertainment industry. Samuel L. Jackson has made a ton of money off of it. Morgan Freeman has made his fortune by avoiding it. The stereotypes that are present in entertainment media are a revealing element of our culture.

I am sure that Obama has struggled to find a balance. As predicted upthread, I think we will learn about it in his memoirs.

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