Ugh.

I left Facebook long ago!

The freeped outrage would be better directed towards their candidate for making such an asinine assertion. They have only Mitt and his hand picked team to blame. They are backing the wrong dressage horse.

over a Facebook page with fewer than 1,000 Likes.

Remember how they attacked the Pizza guy for hugging Obama?

It's the making of a sheeple attack.

TO ME, it's more about fighting the FREEPERS and encouraging people to STAND UP AND SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER.

Anyone that remembers her coverage of the coup of 2000 knows this. She's a right wing corporatist hack. One good moment doesn't change that fact.

How is Obama supposed to get his message out with Robme bouncing all over the stage and interrupting him all time?

I guess what I'm trying to do is ENCOURAGE the act of MODERATING in a debate.

The PRESS in general had ALL been propaganda goons BEFORE Katrina.

SOMETIMES people take courageous stands even if it costs them and the people they help don't appreciate it one bit.

Arlen Specter just died and he was the key person who gave us the vote we needed on the Stimulus and switched parties giving us a Majority in the Senate for a short time.

NOT a perfect person by a long shot, but in some situations an ally. When the other side is SO repulsive that their own turn against them, my attitude is come on over away from the dark side.

answer a question FROM THE AUDIENCE.

Just a thot, was that BEFORE he made the "binder" comment?

Maybe the women's rights was her hot button issue.

I don't know if I could have done a better job, because I would have just walked up and smacked him upside the head and started yelling at him to shut his lying pie hole.

WHAT makes people come over from that side to ours?

Being attacked by the people they pander to? IDK

But a change of direction COULD happen.

MEAN old freepers over there.

Nice and rational DEMs over here.

How do we know she isn't really tired of the whole schtick?

She could be one honest moment away from changing course.

Ya never know.

She's as establishment as it gets. There is no chance she's going to "see the light" or join the "good" guys. She didn't even mean to correct the asshole according to her own statement.

Watch her on a regular basis and then tell me what you think.

And according to her explanation, her only intention in clearing up that point was to move the debate along. It's not like she was trying to stop the lie train. After all, her career is all about advancing phony corporate narratives.

There are going to be a lot of people posting things like, "I used to like her, but..." very soon, I expect.

I don't know about her whole career and I'm not going to marry her or anything....

Maybe I just like to bitch-slap freepers on general principal. I'm SO tired of IF YOU DON'T AGREE with US you aren't Patriotic. If you give the President a reasonable amount of time, you're the enemy. It's all the same crap to me and I want it to stop!

Else where I've stated that MOSTLY as a Diplomatic gesture, I thought it would be good to show the difference between THEM and US. Maybe it's not just about Obama and Robme. Maybe it's about our whole political philosophy. Workers vs Overlords.
Thinkers vs those who lash out for miniscule reasons.

I was angry when I heard she was moderating the debate as I felt given her RW predilection, Pres Obama would be snowballed. However, I thought she did an incredibly professional job as the debate moderator. I saw no preference given to either side. Having said that, 1.) I do not use FB and 2.) Candy Crowley does not need my help. She is entirely capable of ignoring these little rats and taking care of herself.

LOTS of people are supporting Robme who are going against their own values.

I'm going to give her encouragement.

I confronted people in the press before and they put an Ombudsman position in our local Star Trib. Person had to appease BOTH sides, but the paper was all ONE SIDED before that.

They didn't think people knew what we know her on DU.

Had to prove there's a market for it I guess.

She tried to quickly settle a point that was being disputed in order to move the debate along. That's *all*.

Yes, it ended up making Romney look incredibly bad, but that was not her intention-- as evidenced by her equivocating follow up comment, about how Romney was right about his other point.

SHE COULD become an ally. SHE COULD get back to journalistic integrity.

She's taken one step on the path.

A barrage of negative attacks could easily turn her right back to where she was before.

SHE has a MSM audience. SHE could be a voice of reason in the midst of insane in the membrane commentators.

Why not?

DU turns folks on to the facts and thru some basic respect has turned lots of former Republicans into Obama supporters.

It's a challenge.

It could do some good.

Sure and monkeys might fly out of her ass, too.

Until all of that happens, that rightie mouthpiece can fight her own battles.

You are probably right. But if I don't try I won't know and the opportunity will have passed.

It's so funny. Normally I'm asking my right wing friends or family to have a little tolerance. Seems strange to find people so unwilling to budge here.

I for one don't want to have 2 Americas for the rest of my life. I'd like to see some overtures of peace from both sides.

The way I see it is that she's one of them. If they want to eat her, let them go for it. Maybe they will like it well enough to eat some more little repiglicans.

What she did that you think was "for us" was an accident that she would not repeat if given the chance.

Let them eat cake, or Candy. Whatever.

.. she has helped enable have done to my life and to many I know personally, I KNOW they have NO interest in "peace" and will only use any opening as a sign of weakness and another chance to increase the pressure of their jackboots on our neck. No thanks lady, let 'em eat their own for a change. I don't have any right wing "friends," because if they are right wing, by definition, they are the exact opposite of my friend, they ARE the problem stopping the solution.

The dogs she laid down with do NOT like facts or truth.

The FREEPERS are attacking someone for doing the right thing.

Like the person or not, when people are unjustly attacked, it's the DEM thing to do. We speak truth to power, we tell freepers to go home and cry to their Mommies instead of blaming the moderator for Romney's bad manners and bad performance.

that doesn't get it

no worries

HOPEFULLY - most days...


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Except, like I said, I wanted to beat Robme when I was listening to his speech, so I was happy whenever she shut him up.

after all she did for him .

but these media people need to defend themselves and stand up for real journalism themselves .

vaguely resembles her job and we're supposed to help her? Uh huh, not going to happen.

I guess I have a lot of faith in the power of DU.

We certainly shook up a lot of the polls for the 2nd debate.

I have learned SO MUCH here.

I just feel sick that the main stream media is such a mockery of the Fourth Estate. It USED to mean something.

AND NOW people who are die hard FAUX watchers include so many of the MSM in the "liberal media" just because ONCE in awhile one of them breaks with the pack and reports facts.

I've been on DU off and on for a long time. I read William Rivers Pitt's investigative report when 5 reporters were bombed in a hotel by our own military. They were sent back there on purpose. During the war in IRAQ more journalists were killed than in Vietnam. So many by friendly fire. So I guess I can't completely blame any reporter for being afraid to stand up to the machine.

BUT they are letting down those that are fighting hard for the truth.

The US is rated #47 in the World for Freedom of the Press. Outrageous that our press should be so shabby. They are mad at Obama for calling on a Reporter to reveal sources for leaks. It's the reporter's job to protect for the most part, but some of these may have been leaks caused by those trying to hurt Obama and whoever else gets in the way. I think the whole legal scenario plays out but maybe there is a time when if the story is just a get back, then maybe it isn't worth it.

I WOULD like to see OBAMA stand up for the Occupy Movement and the reporters covering it a bit more. Though with all he's got on his plate... still they are the boots on the ground for the 99%.

http://en.rsf.org/united-states.html

I seem to have picked someone to defend who has been awful to us DEMs.

But for me, it's more a matter of principal. No way I can stop any of those freepers, all I can do is show that I am different than them.

I understand how you feel, but it's a missed opportunity.

Diplomacy isn't making nice with your friends. It's finding common ground even with people who disgust you sometimes.

IF we had a Department of PEACE, this would be a soldier assignment.

It's not fun. It isn't easy.

It's standing up with honor for someone you don't even respect, but it's still an honorable thing to do.

Maybe some on DU will feel differently. It's a big group.

Experiencing the wrath of the Freepers might change her mind. Following is a positive article about her debate performance
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/candy-crowley-moderator_n_1974010.html

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Partially as the result of the dedicated efforts of three teenage girls, a woman -- Candy Crowley, CNN's chief political correspondent -- was chosen to moderate Tuesday night's presidential debate at Hofstra University. Sixteen-year-old Emma Axelrod, one of the girls who started the petition for a female moderator, couldn't be more pleased with Crowley's performance.

Axelrod, who forms one-third of the New Jersey trio that created the Change.org petition calling for a woman to moderate the presidential debates for the first time in 20 years, said that Crowley did a "fantastic job," adding that no man or woman could have done it better. .

FACTS...

I don't MIND not watching TV. It just bugs me that the average person is bombarded with so much FAUX and on multiple channels not just the main offender.

I have it when CNN is being C No News

and

ABC is Already Been Ceded (You might be a redneck if you think that means a re-run)

and

NBC is No Body Cares (about the facts)


NPR vacillates between being REAL news and Namby Pamby Radio.



AS a DEM and an American, I think the News really belongs to the People, not the monopolies. I want it back. All of it. Not as "mine" but as really balanced. Calling it as it is and letting people make up their own minds about what is going on.

a MSM that is controlled by their corporate overlords. It infuriates me that they get away with spewing so many lies and distortions. So any small step that we can take to turn this around is valid
That's why I wrote to CNN and supported Candy Crowley, and hopefully they would continue to support her, despite bashing from the GOP.
I watched the debate via the internet, where I get most of my news.

I don't know if it will really help, but it makes me feel more like a person when I reach across the isle so to speak.

Some days the whole political fury is kind of raw.

I'd have slugged the guy myself. Pretty sure of it.

I hate bullies and that is what he was doing and what the freepers are doing to her. I guess I think it's just wrong.

Thanks for the link

for Candy to experience a little right-wing hate. Maybe it will educate her a bit so she will stop with the false equivalency BS she spews sometimes.

I'd just like to show her the difference between THEM and US.

I am NOT doing this because she supported "my candidate". I'm doing this because I believe in people playing by the rules.

If someone is a moderator, then let them moderate. Obama is a World leader, but he kept his ego in check even though this debate meant so much to US and him and the election. He looked TO her to do her job.

I also despise it when people gang up on someone for doing the right thing. It makes me worry that by NOT stepping in and speaking up, we'll lose SO much ground. By being consistent in my approach - lying is not ok regardless WHO is doing it, bullying is not ok regardless WHO is doing it, standing up and speaking truth to power is always appreciated, then I feel a sense that I've got my head on straight and am not getting lost in the flow of the political stream.

I love Democracy. Mob rule, not so much. Does that make sense?

said below. It is about standing up for what was right against bullies. It's not just about Candy Crowley.

People who agreed and people who didn't. Love my DU family. You all make me a better person.

#1 actually predates the debate, and is pushing for her to be removed as moderator before the debate because of her right wing lean.

#2 doesn't have much support (barely over a thousand - kind of lightweight by facebook standards - and just a few comments and likes of actual posts)

#3 has 42 likes. I'm surprised it's on anybody's radar.

#4 is a link to #2.

So, 2 facebook pages with a grand total of less than 1100 likes between them from the hard-right folks. Meanwhile "binders full of women" has fucking exploded across the cultural consciousness - look at the other DU thread about Amazon's Avery Binders item. 11 of 20 pages are all about that. Fucking binders on fucking Amazon. The intertubes are clogged with meme-images based on it. I think we've won the cultural war on last night's debate.

Don't worry, I think she'll be okay. It's pretty contained to their dark, hateful corner of insanity.

Facts are my friends.

Sometimes I do rush in based on instinct.

We completely outnumber the freepers. THAT'S WHY THIS ELECTION WILL BE A LANDSLIDE!!!

She may be a schmuck most of the time, but FOR ME I needed the boost of seeing Obama get a word in edgewise this time.

. . . I read what others had said, watched the video, and asked if I'd won a pony for being the first to answer the question: "A special post debate SOTUTRIVIA. According to our Getting to Know with Candy what chat was her most memorable moment on the campaign trail charter?"

BUT if we are going with the meme.... IT ticked her off that W was supposed to be "FOR" women, but he wasn't living up to his word. (Surprise - NOT to us.)

STILL this could be a useful thot to keep in mind. Women in journalism fight the old boys club every day. Robme is NOT anyone women need as pRez. Robme's only going to get worse.

moderator or the debate.

she did a damn fine job.

My "like" isn't going to change anything one way or another, except to tell the right-wing morons crying about her excellent and even-handed performance to shove it.

And that - I will always do, and will always take pleasure in.

They can go fuck themselves. Candy has my support on this one.

And maybe I'm bad, but it's hard to pass up a freeper smack down.

I loved DUing as many polls as we could. After all WE did watch the debate and had an opinion. Freepers are crying about the polls too.

She would probably be contemptuous of you.

I will not forget her 'coverage' of the 2000 election.

If she is contemptuous of me, that's HER problem.

Freepers gotta be smacked down in general principal so they learn to STFU when they don't know what they are talking about.

If liberals are send her messages of support, she'll interpret it as a sign that she's been way too nice to liberals.

Doing it for my own sense of justice.

What she does with it, isn't in my power to control.

Whichever way it pans out, might be interesting.

I don't do facebook but am so glad you're getting Active on this!

Funny ol' World. Who knew a 3 days ago we'd be sticking up for Candy Crowley against teabaggers?!

I guess this is a sort of amends to Arlen Specter. I'd meant to thank him for standing up to his own party (finally) and giving us a the vote on the Stimulus and a short lived majority in the Senate when he switched parties. He turned his live inside out and upside down for his own reasons, but there was at least a portion of it that was about Justice and I wanted to encourage that in a Congress Critter. Never got around to it.

Lord, life gets so busy. I don't even remember if I knew he was ill. Then he's dead. Too late. But the teabaggers spread their ick all over the place and when people stand up to them, I'm happy about it.

as these facebookers, I would be ashamed of him/her.

A lot of good people on facebook.

Dear Candy,

Thank you for having a grain of integrity in an industry that actually rewards the opposite.

Your small act raised the bar which has been plumbing ever deeper into the depths of the deepest trenches of the Pacific Ocean for as long as I can remember.

Thanks again and keep it up.

Yours,

Hugin.

She's a big girl, let her see fascism up close and personal!

Ms. Crowley has put a great deal of effort into being a GOP friendly "journalist" over the years. It just cracks me up how, after one fucking night at trying to be fair, all of that is forgotten and DU must rush to her rescue.

lolz Fuck that. Now she can see just who she has been helping all this time. A pack of assholes.

Julie

I'll get that fixed before bothering to try and fix what's wrong with Crowley.

Pass.

Let her see what the romney people have unleashed in their supporters. That's the side she's been propping up all these years.

Crowley is a republican. Now she sees how some members of her party are.

I am only in forum sites.
Sadly, this is the only one really left that I frequent often.

Candy's safe.

CNN State of the Union

Hi ***, thank you so much for sending us your direct message about the debate and for your kind words. Just to let you know, we do share feedback such as yours with our management team so they too are aware of what our viewer are saying. We hope you have a great weekend and thank you for taking time to send us your message.

10/19/2012