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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Please Proceed, Governor" - Was it planned?
There's a great photo & video diary on DKos that we all must relish in as well.
(snip)
I believe in my heart that the whole "Please proceed, Governor," was planned.
The Obama Administration (including Secretary of State Clinton), after having tolerated the right wing's "they never called it terrorism" meme for weeks, tossed out the lasso, snared their prey, then loosened the tether before the nitwit could realize he'd been tagged.
It was just enough to allow Mitt to walk around, thinking himself free and untethered, but the more he walked and talked, the tighter the tether got. Once he realized he'd been snagged, it was too late. The trap was set and the tether tightened, enough to give the idiot a serious rope burn.
In the end, Romney knew it.
So did Queen Ann:
So did President Obama:
Bravo! Well done, sir.
Videos setting up scenario and audience reaction at:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/17/1146055/--PLEASE-proceed-Governor-CNN-Focus-Group-Reacts
imanamerican63
(13,795 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Despair, as the fantasy went up in flames perhaps?
politicaljack78
(312 posts)being dumped on. Mitt's not all there and he purportedly takes out his frustrations on his wife. This would also explain his adult son's inability to control his anger.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I've been looking for a Queen Ann shot right after the debate, all day. Mittens looks so sheepish too. LOL
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Interesting dynamic in that pic!
glinda
(14,807 posts)She looks pretty (sternly) disappointed.
Cha
(297,240 posts)for something like poor Seamus when the was brought down from atop of the car and hosed down.
ann romney's going to be on The View tomorrow venting her spleen I would guess.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,705 posts)into running into a door painted on a wall.
Beep, beep.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)At the same time I stumbled on the diary at DKos. Perfect timing.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)you can see Obama's poker face and the slightest hint of, "is he really going to do it? I think he's going to do it... that's it... push all those chips in..."
It's fascinating to watch Obama's facial expressions during that clip.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,705 posts)but Obama clearly saw where Romney was taking things; that's when he said, "Please proceed, Governor." Romney didn't recognize that Obama had just opened a trapdoor in front of him, and he stepped right into it.
Ha.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,929 posts)Probably wasn't as forceful or needing to push anyone.
Same words but different vocalization and purpose.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)elleng
(130,912 posts)mouth, entire facial expression, gritting teeth, tightening lips: mad and scared.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,705 posts)Kind of got a serial killer vibe goin' on there...
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I saw this larger pic last night and it's one that jumps out at the viewer. It is one of the most striking photos captured throughout this campaign, and I've seen it everywhere today. I think it will haunt ole Willard til election day.
Freddie
(9,266 posts)carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)"Now I've got you, you @#$%^&*"
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)I know of someone who saw the real thing.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Obama let him have it. And when Romney thought he had trapped Obama, our President knew it was best to let him keep talking.
"Please proceed, governor"
Not planned, just great instinct.
elleng
(130,912 posts)rmoney had said something similar, somewhere recently, can't recall when/where, challenging someone to ask a question, and putting the person and audience on edge, as I recall.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I've seen it bantered about today. Either way, it couldn't have turned out any better.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)because the President couldn't know exactly what nitt would come up with...
I loved the look in Obama's eyes when he said, "Please proceed..." He was waiting to pounce!!!
patrice
(47,992 posts)remember facts and "act of terror" is exactly one of the sort of things I would have noted from watching that Rose Garden speech.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)which is why she could fact check on the spot
patrice
(47,992 posts)In the interests of avoiding that kind of chaos, a moderator would not be out of place to resolve a point of contention by offering concrete information.
I should watch the entire debate again to check to see when the parts are where our President and Willard are talking over one another and sparring for time. Those were chaotic experiences for the audience, so it would be appropriate for a moderator to prevent that from happening again by resolving a fight with the appropriate piece of disputed factual information.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Mitt a bigger Loser. He should have known that rose garden speech word for word. He got his ass handed to him. He knew it.
It was priceless.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)he just ate up all the right wing bloggery fed to him and figured he knew what he needed to know. It was supposed to be his zinger... LOL
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)so he knows what is in them.
Apparently Romney is not aware of that.
Qutzupalotl
(14,312 posts)is an intellectual lightweight. Like Sununu.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Not really, I don't care.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)we will know that shoe is about to drop.
Rincewind
(1,203 posts)California.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)If she votes in California, we will have an indication.
Considering that California is not a swing state, that would be advertising on a billboard. My guess, they will both vote in New Hampshire.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)in the video at the DKos link.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)should just let him go. Clueless Mitt gobsmacked himself.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)why would he stick his neck out on that narrow point (which was not necessary to make his case), if he knew Obama was right on it?
Then again, if Crowley hadn't intervened, it might have worked in his favor. Which is why they are so pissed at her.
patrice
(47,992 posts)He's used to bulling his way through whatever because of his financial power.
patrice
(47,992 posts)the President's Rose Garden speech about Benghazi.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)But, to use a boxing analogy, Crowley turned it from a win on points into a knockout.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Candy, the referee, gave him the mandatory 8 count.
Brother Buzz
(36,434 posts)And my president, as smart as he is, simply allowed Romney to walk into his own trap.
He was hoisted by his own petard
Grown2Hate
(2,012 posts)it doesn't work quite as well without Candy doing the "on-site fact checking". And he couldn't have known she was necessarily do that.
Just incredible instincts at an incredible time. Without her doing that, it could have become just another "Yes I did" "No you didn't" type of moment. President Obama hit what GWB would have called a "trifecta": a brilliant President Obama sensing the moment, a fumbling, bumbling Mitt to step in it, and Candy to call him out on it. My favorite moment of ANY debate in HISTORY. Well, except for maybe Bush the Smarter checking his watch.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)lying. He was prepared with that exact attack, yet it was dead wrong. Do we want him and his preppers running the country? That is how things like the Iraq war get started and outing Valerie Plame.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)As was the statement about the Rose garden and specifically calling it an act of terror. Please proceed Governor came from Romney beginning to say what he was about to say and then turning to the President and saying "isn't that right"? THey knew what Romney would say, but they didn't know he would ask the President (perhaps rhetorically) "isn't that right"?
flyguyjake
(492 posts)She's so fake, like a typical rich white woman that I've met many times before. She doesn't give you that "caring" or "genuine" vibe. We she said "You people" that really summed up her ugly persona.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I've been looking for it all day and saw it in the Daily Kos diary.
I think it was partially planned, at least something that would be discussed post debate. The video of Obama's Rose Garden speech would have been played by the media and voila, he did indeed refer to it as an act of terror. It definitely had some mileage potential. But it wouldn't have had near the impact if Candy didn't fact checked Romney in real time. And that I believe was a gift from the Gods, to the Obama team.
Willard's face is just as priceless in that second photo as Ann's. He's been a baaaad boy! LOL
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)when just minutes before he was ready to storm the stage and take a swing at the President.
Cha
(297,240 posts)I almost fell off the couch when he said that. But when Candy responded and repeated the devastating blow to Romney, I literally DID fall off the couch laughing hysterically.
Kennah
(14,266 posts)Some on the President's team suggested the phrase, "I won't stop you from saying dumb shit, Governor", but the President wisely amended it.
My husband's dream response from Obama would have been "Governor, I'll betcha $10,000, right here, right now."
Suji to Seoul
(2,035 posts)Sorry dear. . .I'll put my testicles back in your purse.
Ann to Romney:
I don't want them! You're disgraceful. Why can't you be like that handsome black guy, you jerk! No sex for you ever again!
eShirl
(18,492 posts)That's hysterical.
flyguyjake
(492 posts)because your about to step in SOME SHIT! I'm just gonna sit back and watch it happen.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)He's smart and thinks on his feet. I don't believe "please proceed" or "read the transcript" was planned.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)malaise
(269,004 posts)Rec
As Bill Maher said sometime back - Obama will fuck you up!!
Mme. Defarge
(8,032 posts)Surely someone's head rolled in Mitt's debate prep team.
tavernier
(12,388 posts)when he said, "Proceed, sir."
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)porphyrian
(18,530 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)spanone
(135,838 posts)he executed it beautifully ....proceed, governor
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)It's like a chef competition. You've filleted a salmon for roasting with a raspberry sauce a dozen times in practice sessions. You show up and they put down in front of you a trout and ingredients for a lime sauce. You deal, even though you've never roasted trout with lime sauce. You beat the other chef, who is still rattling the lock on the fridge trying to get the salmon out.
They probably stopped Obama at several points in mock debates and said "Here's a great place to ease back and say 'Go right ahead'" or 'Carry on' or 'Feel free, governor'. About other issues and points.
They may have helped Obama recognize Mitt body language and mannerisms and tells.
Earlier in the exchange, Romney answering the question first, used the phrase "terrorist attack". Then when Obama responds directly to Romney, he uses the phrase "act of terror", which has a subtly different connotation, but is in fact the actual phrase Obama used in the Rose Garden press conference. Then Romney, incredulous, unconsciously and carelessly uses Obama's phrase, thinking the first phrase, and adding you said it was "not a spontaneous demonstration" (rhetorically with an implied question mark), to distinguish it from "terrorist attack", which is what he is thinking.
Obama, cool as a cucumber, remembers that he didn't deny it being a spontaneous demonstration because he didn't address the film or the demonstration in his statement that day. But more importantly, he also sees that Romney is using Obama's phrase.
So he instantly recognizes that Romney is getting caught up in half-remembered phrases and is like a quarterback with his shoe laces untied. Thus he has the presence of mind to say "Proceed".
That's what we want from a Commander-in-Chief: [font size="+1"]Presence of mind.[/font]
And then Obama stays cool and lands a precise jab to Romney with "Get the transcript". Followed by the knockout punch by joking after Crowley's fact check: "Can you say that a little louder, Candy?" This plays on the audio problems that started the debate and is evidence of extremely quick thinking by Obama.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Please proceed.
MR. ROMNEY: Is that what you're saying?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Please proceed, Governor.
MR. ROMNEY: I I I want to make sure we get that for the record, because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Get the transcript.
MS. CROWLEY: It he did in fact, sir.
So let me let me call it an act of terrorism (inaudible) --
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy? (Laughter, applause.)
MS. CROWLEY: He did call it an act of terror. It did as well take it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.
Crowley vindicates Obama, while giving Romney a point about the riot. But too late for Romney, the damage is done by Obama's three hammer blows one after the other: "Proceed", "Get the transcript", and "Can you say that a little louder, Candy?"
pleaseproceed
(2 posts)If this was planned, it was masterful.
Oh, and this is great as well:
www.facebook.com/pleaseproceedgovernor
IMO one of the great moments of American campaign history.
slutticus
(3,428 posts)make a looped video of obama saying "please proceed governor" followed by romney's stuttering reaction??? Please? That would be pretty freakin' awesome (i would do it but i don't know how )