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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRomney's "bosses" gaffe is going mainstream -- it's the new 47
New York Magazine is reporting the story now that the source of these stories of bosses implying lay-offs if Romney loses is, in fact, Romney himself.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10/romney-bosses-should-tell-employees-how-to-vote.html
[font size="4"]Romney Caught Encouraging Business Owners to Tell Employees How to Vote[/font]
Recently several business owners have made headlines by sending out missives suggesting that workers should vote Romney if they're interested in the health of the business (and thus their jobs). Now In These Times reports that in a June conference call with the National Federation of Independent Business, Mitt Romney said that he's totally behind the questionable practice. "I hope you make it very clear to your employees what you believe is in the best interest of your enterprise and therefore their job and their future in the upcoming elections," says Romney. "Nothing illegal about you talking to your employees about what you believe is best for the business, because I think that will figure into their election decision, their voting decision and of course doing that with your family and your kids as well." Sure, there's no law against employers sharing their political opinions, people just tend to find this sort of thing creepy and unethical, particularly when their boss suggests there's a good chance they'll be joining the ranks of the unemployed if they don't vote Romney.
That stuff in bold, folks? That's called a "money-shot."
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)Bush and that's hard to do.
phylny
(8,380 posts)Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)I absolutely despised George W. Bush while he was in office. BUT I have to give credit where credit is due. He has stayed out of the media, has made very few political comments, and has certainly not wholeheartedly endorsed Romney.
Romney is worse than Bush in that he is a liar through and through AND he is an egotistical bully. While Bush may have similar traits to those, he was not right up front about it. Romney exhibits those traits publicly like he is entitled to be that way and we, the people, have no right to criticize anything he says or does.
If you notice, right wingers don't even talk positively about Romney. They are not voting "for" him. They are voting "against" Obama.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)in quite some time.
my company just sent out an email today...stating that they encourage everyone to vote but that there is to be no political discussion or use of company time or resources to send political messages or materials.
That's the way it should be.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)A model email, for sure.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)Please share, tweet, whatever! Lift up the rug. Expose the dirt.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)Just tweeted him a couple things. This was one of them.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)with a interesting picture....
Mitt Romney wants your vote. And if you're a small business owner, he wants your employees' votes as well and insists that there's nothing wrong with giving them a little guidance this election cycle. On June 6, Romney led a conference call with support from the über-conservative National Federation of Independent Business and -- to cut to the chase -- urged the bosses on the call to persuade their employees to vote for him in the upcoming election.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/10/romney-told-employers-tell-employees-whom-vote/58076/
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)yardwork
(61,622 posts)jsmirman
(4,507 posts)Non-partisan, my ass, you Republican coward.
Cha
(297,244 posts)wickerwoman
(5,662 posts)It's deliberately promoting unethical behaviour.
Bucky
(54,013 posts)A gaffe is when a politician accidentally tells the truth.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)I am tired of the words MISSTATED and GAFFE being used to cover outright lying and outrageous behavior
bluesbassman
(19,373 posts)What follows is invariably shady as hell. Romney could make Beelzebub blush.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)If the only thing keeping you from acting a certain way is a law, then you are too unethical to be a president. Being ethical means going above and beyond basic laws. And yes, Mitt Romney IS shady.
Mme. Defarge
(8,033 posts)legal harassment in the workplace. Make no mistake, though, this clearly creates a hostile work environment, and, IMO, a blatant example of quid pro quo - "Vote for Romney or you'll lose your job."
The freedom to vote without coercion from one's employer should be protected activity under the public policy doctrine, which protects employees who take time off to vote, perform jury duty, etc.
Mme. Defarge
(8,033 posts)you're supposed to take seriously your boss's concern that if Obama is re-elected the economy will get so bad he'll have to cut jobs? Because your boss believes the economic forecast of someone whose best explanation of his own plan is "Pick a number?"
Please proceed, Governor ...
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)why are they doing so well right now? That's what I would be asking myself if I was an employee!
So why in hell would you vote for Romney?
My grandfather told me years ago why he was a democrat. He was a coal miner and the coal company owner sent out a letter to all the miners that it would be in their best interests to vote republican. He figured if the boss voted republican, then he must be a democrat. Hopefully this modern day actions by employers will create even more democrats!
Wednesdays
(17,376 posts)Wow, 32 recs already... And it's the wee hours of the morning!
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Tribetime
(4,697 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Yes, it's vile, but is it actually illegal?
randome
(34,845 posts)But Democrats can make much of this by pointing to how Romney would use his government power coercively.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I think he may have stopped the bleeding. I certainly hope so. I'm still feeling really apprehensive about the election for a host of reasons, but I think he's really fighting and you can't ask for anything more.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)That phrase doesn't even go with the rest of the sentence. This buffoon has a Palin Disorder!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)What's a little coercion among friends.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)along with his Queen Ann.
Native
(5,942 posts)Bill & Dick were very open about their employees voting for Reagan. They even had flyers up in the offices telling us how to vote. Even though our jobs weren't threatened, you sure as hell didn't walk around talking positively about Carter! And even without overt threats, it was a VERY uncomfortable environment (they also "required" donating to Reagan's campaign). I can't even imagine how the employees at the firms mentioned in this article must feel now; it has to be much worse than what I went through. Another thought - considering the Marriotts are Mormon, can you imagine what the workplace environment there today must be like?
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt
Zambero
(8,964 posts)1. Binders full of coerced fear-inspired votes for swaying the election, courtesy of "concerned business owners"
2. Binders full of soon-to-be-fired employees, ready for immediate action in the event the presidential election results "don't go the right way"
OK now workers, Romney and your boss have spoken. Just take your pick of binders!
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)porphyrian
(18,530 posts)spanone
(135,838 posts)edhopper
(33,580 posts)this is not "A Gaffe". A gaffe is when you unintentionally say something dumb.
This is a statement that shows the true nature of the candidate and was what he means to say and believes.
imgbitepolitic
(179 posts)I pray she talkes about it Thursday!!!!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)He just did a segment last night on employers threatening their workers, telling them there would be "consequences" if the president were re-elected.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)"OOOOOOHHHHH! Dat nasty 'ol Puddy Tat!!!!"
I think this is the thing that sends Mr. Matthews off the motherfuckin' rails this cycle. Chris might be a water carrier a times, but he does NOT like it when people try and circumvent an honest Public Debate. Chris seems to like it when the People make up their OWN damn mind, and doesn't take kindly to people who try and short circuit a process, that, for him at least, is a Moral Imperative of sorts.
He will be in rare form for SURE.
If this is posted on Rachel's blog, expect her to be on a fucking tear by early next week, as well. If she thinks this has legs, she'll likely spend the weekend crossing T's and dotting I's, and it will be ready to go by Monday.
If this is perceived by the General Population the same way it's perceived around here, this is it. This is THE THING that buries that ruthless rat-bastard, and gets the President another term. Welcome to the October Surprise, MotherFucker. (not to mention, there's still The Majority Leader's little tease about the PROOF of R-Money's tax rates.)
Enrique
(27,461 posts)"we need to start turning the screws."
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)ecstatic
(32,705 posts)I was wrong. He is truly a piece of shit.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)In America we don't respond well to threats from terrorists.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)MaeScott
(878 posts)PatSeg
(47,458 posts)He sees everything from a CEO's mentality and he does what he thinks is expedient. This is also why he has no problem lying during the campaign. The ends justify the means and winning is everything.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)left to shoot off?
louis c
(8,652 posts)during organizing campaigns and captive audiences.
"If you vote for a union, will move this place or shut it down.'
It's just so common. The other side will not be happy until everyone works a slave wage rates.
I'm 60 years old and I probably won't see it in my lifetime, but if American workers don't wake up and act like our fathers and grand-fathers did two generations ago, we'll be living like we did at the turn of the twentieth century, where everything you did, where you lived, where you shopped, what you made for wages, was dictated by the company.
Wake up, America.
yends21012
(228 posts)There are laws against other kinds of bullying and harassment and zero tolerance for it in the workplace, schools, and other public areas.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)mittnes: the more we screw, the more money we make!
femrap
(13,418 posts)law that forbids threatening employees with 'being fired' for not voting a certain way??????
And I do believe those voting records can be attained by the employer.
And it's just called a 'money shot?'
So threats are OK and bribes aren't??? Isn't that threat a monetary bribe???
The Wealthy have one set of laws to live by and I'm stuck living a life of torture set up by the Wealthy.
Life is no longer just UNFAIR, it's fooking TORTUROUS. Does anyone else feel it? I find Life today to be thoroughly and exhaustingly torturous. The final step will be a residence at my local FEMA camp.
barbtries
(28,795 posts)unemployed if they don't vote Romney."
interestingly, their actual chances are far worse if they do vote romney, if history is any indication.
JuveDem
(69 posts)Post to FB, share on twitter... send to all news reporters. This is disgusting. What a horrible disgusting thing to do.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Blue Owl
(50,383 posts)No need to think for yourselves when Mitt is the leader.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)If not, all suggestions welcomed.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)His voice in the recording is dripping with threat. What a piece of living garbage.