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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:36 AM Oct 2012

Rachel Maddow is TICKED OFF

Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 06:59 AM PDT
Rachel Maddow is TICKED OFF
by Exurban Mom

I waited for someone else to diary this, but haven't seen it in the last 12 hours, so here I go...

Rachel Maddow is angry. One doesn't often catch Ms. Maddow in a moment of anger; she is calm, deliberate, and thoughtful at all times, even when an asshole like Alex Castellano treats her like crap. But last night, as she closed out her show, she delivered an almost Olbermann-like rant against the right wing closed bubble of disinformation. ..

SNIP

...The last segment on her program Wednesday evening was called "Can You Say That A Little Louder, Candy?". In the segment, Rachel discusses the closed loop of right wing media and how the disinformation feedback loop can lead a candidate like Romney astray. When you are only trying to appeal to the base, who is also trapped in the bubble, you end up making mistakes like Romney did on the Libya question. After replaying that moment from the debate, Rachel begins her closing.

This is my transcript; errors are mine. Video here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#49456831

...Mitt Romney, repeating a story told about this subject on the Right, in a way that is very satisfying to conservatives. The way this story is told on the Right is a story that tells conservatives exactly what they want to hear and what they want to believe about that bad bad President Obama, a comforting story about how this bad president never used that word "terror" in talking about these attacks until TWO WEEKS after they happened. This awful guy! I mean, that story must feel great if you are a conservative, if you're against this president.

If you only experience reality as mediated through the conservative media, you might think that is really what happened.

That is not what happened.

[VIDEO of PRES. OBAMA in Rose Garden on day following Libyan consulate attacks] "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act, and make no mistake, justice will be done."

RACHEL: You can count down "3, 2, 1..." until the Right starts saying that that tape has been 'doctored,' that that transcript has been 'forged from a fax machine in Hawaii.'

[Rachel starts tapping her pen on her paper in an annoyed manner...]

RACHEL: Mitt Romney, getting it wrong last night because he apparently consumes the Right Wing version of reality, instead of the real reality outside of the Right Wing conserviative media bubble. That was the story of the night last night when he just face planted on that story...just a shocking stylistic and substantive face plant! By an excitable candidate who decided to take a leaping roundhouse punch, while his opponent was standing there at his most presidential. And the guy taking the punch not only missed his target, he punched himself out in the process. Splat!

That was THE story of last night, but the story of today, was that the Right decided that was too painful. The Right decided that what happened to Mr. Romney there felt too bad, that they were going to make themselves feel better by telling themselves that that did not actually happen. Telling themselves that Mr. Romney actually DID land that punch. That he was right and he looked great for it!

Look at the lower third [Rachel is referring to the chyron titles that are used to identify news stories on screen in the lower third of the frame] on Fox News today when they were talking about this. This was on their dayside programming, which Fox says is supposedly when they are not doing any opinion at all!

[Photo of Fox News, chyron title says DEBATE INTERRUPTION BY CANDY CROWLEY STEPS ON MAJOR MOMENT FOR GOV ROMNEY]

RACHEL: Just straight news, fair and balanced! Lookit: DEBATE INTERRUPTION BY CANDY CROWLEY STEPS ON MAJOR MOMENT FOR GOV ROMNEY!

Oh darn that Candy Crowley, her pointless interruption ruined Mitt Romney's big moment when he was just nailing Obama for not saying the word "terror" in the Rose Garden that day.

[VIDEO of Pres. Obama in the Rose Garden: ""No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation."]

RACHEL: In Right Wing World, President Obama never said that. Part of the reason I think this country would be better off if the website Politifact didn't exist, is because Politifact has encouraged relativism--on the subject of whether or not stuff happened--as a mainstream thing.

So like when Mitt Romney wrote an op-ed titled "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt", and then he went on CBS News and defended his call to Let "Detroit Go Bankrupt," including that headline, Politifact fact checked whether or not Mitt Romney said "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt". And they found that "half true". Because basically they don't think that Mitt Romney likes to be quoted saying "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt", or something.

Even though he did. So half true?

Politifact last night looked into whether or not President Obama used the phrase "act of terror" the day after the Benghazi attack when he gave that speech in the Rose Garden.

[VIDEO of Pres. Obama in the Rose Garden: ""No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation."]

Politifact in its assessment said "oh yes, he did say that" but it's really only half true because people on the Right say maybe he didn't mean it when he said it.

This infection is leaving the conservative media, through purportedly neutral arbiters of fact like Politifact. These baldly false conservative feel-good assertions about knowable facts that come from the Right, end up becoming...just 'the other side' of a political issue...'we're taking an objective look' And That is BULL.

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. The unemployment rate is below 8%. The day after the Benghazi attack, the President called it an 'act of terror.' Do whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better, but do not confuse your ''World-Net-Daily-caliber-theraputic-conservative-alternative-reality-fantasy-babble for what actually happened.

Because stuff really does actually happen. And eventually, you really do have to deal with it.


Best part? She ended the rant by throwing her papers at the camera, perhaps a subtle homage to our friend Keith.

Thanks, Rachel, for telling the truth. Those of us living in the reality-based community appreciate you so much.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/18/1146345/-Rachel-Maddow-is-TICKED-OFF

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Rachel Maddow is TICKED OFF (Original Post) FourScore Oct 2012 OP
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #1
or 'pollsters' like RCP grantcart Oct 2012 #2
I cheered after seeing this last night RockaFowler Oct 2012 #3
Everyone should be angry ! K&R K Gardner Oct 2012 #4
...angry at the stupid too. n/t L0oniX Oct 2012 #21
That IS good. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #5
I noticed that last night as well. Hyper_Eye Oct 2012 #6
Yes, I noticed that. It was awesome, and she was pissed. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #7
Yes, I love Rachel Maddow! Aldo Leopold Oct 2012 #8
Agree with this poster's observation Helen Reddy Oct 2012 #9
Damn I missed this show. Thanks B Calm Oct 2012 #10
It was a spectacular piece Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #24
She also starts talking very fast... SEMOVoter Oct 2012 #11
I truly admire and love that woman. EnviroBat Oct 2012 #12
That was EXTREMELY impressive when I saw it last night. dsharp88 Oct 2012 #13
Everyone else lives in reality, conservatives live in their own bubble. Jennicut Oct 2012 #14
Mitt and the other republicans are living like Sandy Cheeks on Spongebob. Ganja Ninja Oct 2012 #15
Ok, here's the problem, right here. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #16
Rachel has done segments on politico and how bad it is Merlot Oct 2012 #38
Good to know! Thanks for update! JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #52
K&R 99Forever Oct 2012 #17
I liked her tip of the hat to Olberman by throwing her notes off the table. Yeah, she was pissed. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #18
Rachel is brilliant! She has become one of my journalistic heroes! Raster Oct 2012 #19
I saw that too....A great nod to KO! whathehell Oct 2012 #34
I saw that last night angrychair Oct 2012 #20
i listened to it this morning. barbtries Oct 2012 #22
I went out last night and missed Rachel. JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #23
Holy cow that was awesome! Whovian Oct 2012 #25
Way cool. But, I was first. SpankMe Oct 2012 #26
Schools, media, election reform, health care, smaller military. Gregorian Oct 2012 #27
When she was talking about the bubble, xxqqqzme Oct 2012 #28
Rachel Maddow at her best. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #29
You have to love her! (nt) jeanmarc Oct 2012 #30
Thanks for posting this. Not Sure Oct 2012 #31
K&R SalviaBlue Oct 2012 #32
I would love Rachel Maddow even more than I already did, Revolutionary Girl Oct 2012 #33
Bill Mahr calls it the "Right-wing Bubble" Dash Riprock Oct 2012 #35
This is an excellent piece by Dr. Madow bagimin Oct 2012 #36
i agree with her 1.000% spanone Oct 2012 #37
thats all? Snotcicles Oct 2012 #42
I listened to that on XM Radio Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #39
Love it, Excellent post! cherish44 Oct 2012 #40
I don't think she's too angry. I'm willing to bet that she's pretty damned pleased. harmonicon Oct 2012 #41
On Big Eddie Thursday Bohunk68 Oct 2012 #43
I like the other version of the segment's title Mc Mike Oct 2012 #44
Is there a YouTube link? longship Oct 2012 #45
Not so subtle and well deserved homage tavalon Oct 2012 #46
HOW TICKED OFF IS SHE? meegbear Oct 2012 #47
Dr. Maddow is 100% right about these so-called fact checkers rational_pi Oct 2012 #48
That was definately a tip o' the hat to Keith! n/t AAO Oct 2012 #49
That was one of her best commentaries ever deutsey Oct 2012 #50
Joe Scarborough could learn from her. Democratopia Oct 2012 #51
Right after the debate onlyadream Oct 2012 #53

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
3. I cheered after seeing this last night
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:40 AM
Oct 2012

She is angry. A lot of us are angry. And she seems to be one of the only ones in the media calling out the BS.

Hyper_Eye

(675 posts)
6. I noticed that last night as well.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:48 AM
Oct 2012

I watch Rachel every night and have been since her show started. When she threw her papers it was out-of-character enough that I noticed it and thought Rachel must have been rattled. That never happens! I didn't think about it being in homage to KO. He would usually pick the papers up and fling them like a Frisbee at the camera. It looked to me more like Rachel just pushed the papers away from her which resulted in her pushing them off her desk. It looked like a rare moment of frustration. I could be wrong. The thing did come off very "Special Comment" like.

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
9. Agree with this poster's observation
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:57 AM
Oct 2012

about Rachel. Watching that the other night, I said to myself, self? Rachel is really ticked off right now. Very rarely see the overt anger.

I, frankly, was pleased to see it. Go Ms. Maddow! Love her!

SEMOVoter

(202 posts)
11. She also starts talking very fast...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:57 AM
Oct 2012

I saw this last night too.

Covering this election has to be exhausting, but the truth needs to be told.

Thanks Rachel!

dsharp88

(487 posts)
13. That was EXTREMELY impressive when I saw it last night.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:04 AM
Oct 2012

If you can, click the video link to see it first hand.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
14. Everyone else lives in reality, conservatives live in their own bubble.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:07 AM
Oct 2012

Where everything is a conspiracy and a lie if you don't like the facts. Well done to Rachel.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
15. Mitt and the other republicans are living like Sandy Cheeks on Spongebob.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:08 AM
Oct 2012

They live in a bubble. Everywhere they go they depend on the bubble. If the bubble breaks they are in trouble. It's a dilemma of their own making.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
16. Ok, here's the problem, right here.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:14 AM
Oct 2012

Poor Rachel. Living in a "journalists are fair, except those assholes at Faux!"

"Politico" neutral? lolz Where you been girl??

Julie

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
38. Rachel has done segments on politico and how bad it is
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:09 PM
Oct 2012

Look them up. She's under no illusions about politico being either neutral or fact-based.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
18. I liked her tip of the hat to Olberman by throwing her notes off the table. Yeah, she was pissed.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:09 PM
Oct 2012

You just can't argue with Rachel's logic and her supporting documents and clips. Unfortunately, the right keeps the TV tuned in to FOX and thinks she's just a lesbian gas bag. Yes, she's an open lesbian. GET OVER IT! There's nobody on the right who even comes CLOSE to backing up their claims with actual documentation. Nobody. Since Olberman left the scene, she and Bashir are pretty much the only two who do it well. Granted, Moyer, Mathews, Papantonio, Hayes, Hartman, and O'Donnell do well, but Rachel is the best.

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
22. i listened to it this morning.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oct 2012

it's pretty concise. wasn't it rove who said fuck reality, we make our own? it was pretty notable when romney got caught actually believing that false reality when the facts were put before him.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
26. Way cool. But, I was first.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:50 PM
Oct 2012

I was pointing out some 12 months ago that "fact check" organizations were hedging into right-wing territory because they're afraid of being labeled as tools of the liberal elite.

Because conservatives lie, distort and mis-state "facts" so much more that liberals do, these fact-check organizations' web sites - if they were honest and accurate - would be chock-full of articles pointing to right wing shortcomings while calling liberals to task only occasionally. This imbalance would make it look like favoritism of liberals over conservatives. So, fact-check organizations are straying from literal fact vs. non-fact checking and have started delving into 'context' in order to "balance things out" between liberals and conservatives.

Like someone famous recently said "Facts are liberal, apparently..."

This leaking of right-wing information bubble-ness form the fringe into the mainstream that Rachel speaks of is very real and supports and promotes the rightward lurching we're seeing in this country.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
27. Schools, media, election reform, health care, smaller military.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:05 PM
Oct 2012

Until then we will continue down the path of fascism, faster or slower depending upon how good the situation is in DC.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
28. When she was talking about the bubble,
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:13 PM
Oct 2012

I remembered Jon, after the Eastwood/ empty chair lunacy, saying - Now I get it, they are complaining about a president only they can see, with a screen shot of Eastwood and the empty chair.


Rachel had to be fed up. I have never heard(old Air America days) or seen her that angry. Very effective.

Not Sure

(735 posts)
31. Thanks for posting this.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:25 PM
Oct 2012

Great piece by Rachel, who has been a favorite of mine since Air America. This idea that reality should be changed to fit the truth the right (or even the left) wants to see is appalling. I think we're only seeing the beginning of this relative truth, invoking the Google algorithm of granting the most "truth" to the most shared/copied ideas. It will be an enemy of the truth from now on.

Dash Riprock

(55 posts)
35. Bill Mahr calls it the "Right-wing Bubble"
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:15 PM
Oct 2012

on his show. Every show he shows a clip where "the facts can't get into the bubble". I'm sure he'll have another on tomorrows show.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
39. I listened to that on XM Radio
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:43 PM
Oct 2012

So I never saw the intensity in her eyes nor did I see her toss those papers there at the end.

Nevertheless, it was a powerful indictment of the right's basic inability to deal with inconvenient FACTS.

K&R.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
41. I don't think she's too angry. I'm willing to bet that she's pretty damned pleased.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:10 AM
Oct 2012

She delivers/spoon-feeds some canned vitriol to a calculated audience eager to lap-up something coming from "the media" that already exists in their own echo chamber - and in "morning zoo" fashion, none-the-less, making a nice transition from drive-time to tv-time (the only times that aren't work-time).

She's rich. No matter what her real feelings are, it's acting mad/angry at conservatives that has made her filthy-rich, so I'd guess that she's a-ok with it.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
43. On Big Eddie Thursday
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 05:30 AM
Oct 2012

Night, that asshole, Ron Christie was all over the place about the incident and how Mittens was so right and everyone else was wrong. What an asshole!!! Just knowing he is coming on a program pisses me off.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
44. I like the other version of the segment's title
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:28 AM
Oct 2012

on the left of the viewing screen: "Right Wing Truthers lead Romney to debate disaster". And the screen capture of Corsi on Bircher Jone's Infowars and Prisonplanet site. Because Romney's 'slip' came from running on 9-11 (2012) terror attack 'truth'.

Brad Blog amplified coverage from Zack Beauchamp from Think Progress's story: that Romney and his campaign waited 14 and 9 days, respectively, to refer to the attacks as terror. Anyone keeping track can see that Romney waited 2 weeks to say it, then lied and accused the President of waiting 2 weeks to say it.

longship

(40,416 posts)
45. Is there a YouTube link?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:26 AM
Oct 2012

This segment has fallen off the provided MSNBC page linked to in OP.

Thanks.

rational_pi

(23 posts)
48. Dr. Maddow is 100% right about these so-called fact checkers
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:07 AM
Oct 2012

I had meant to start a thread on the subject of fact checkers etc, after I watched a show about a bragging panel. While they have pointed out the inaccuracies, they seem to feel a need to "balance" out the inaccuracies (the usual MSM ploy of both sides do it).

They seem to equate bold face lies of Republicans with true but not technically prices
statements made by President.

In that show a panel member pointed out that when Obama mentions number of jobs created he is telling the half truth because he is omitting number of jobs lost. Yet he himself failed to see that 80% of the jobs lost during Obama's presidency took place before October 2009. It seems the fact checkers and half of the nation have developed an amnesia and forgotten that Obama took over during one of the worst recessions.

Another panel member kept bringing up a point that Obama is begin untruthful when he kept saying that money saved by ending the war in Afghanistan war can be diverted to other projects. His pointy was that no money was being saved as the war was conducted on borrowed money, and even used a stupid analogy of college kid after finishing college can claim he can spend his (presumed student loan money) on other things.

In this case it was the Panel member who needed to be educated and fact checked.
That Bozo clearly does not now how the financing in government works.

In fact he probably doesn't even know much about college student loans.
He thinks students are given a wad of cash and told go spend it.
Student loans cover part (perhaps large part) of college expanses, and most students supplement their college loan with part time jobs or help from parents.

In much the same way certain amount of "non-borrowed" money is spent on wars, much like the college student supplementing his student loans.

The guy in panel brought this number of times and was on his high horses and kept pointing out that Obama had been repeating this "bogus" line, I was shouting loud, "No, You are wrong, it is YOU who doesn't get it."

More recently "fact-checker" accused Obama of saying that he quietly mumbles out "line last 29 months" when talking about the jobs added.

This is of course an idiotic nit picking, Clearly last 29 months are more indicative of where we going then anything before that.
I am into sports, and when a team comes in with a winning streak
they are not dismissed because they were lousy prior to that, and when people bring this up, they are indicating that team is doing well and that these recent results are
true indicator of the teams strength for reasons obvious to most rational minds.

I have been thinking to start a site that fact checks these idiotic fact checkers.

Sorry about the rant!

Good weekend wishes for DUers!






onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
53. Right after the debate
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:57 PM
Oct 2012

I saw one of the many RW posts on facebook - in one case, someone posted the transcipt of the speech in the Rose Garden, along with an "Obama lied!" . Now, since I was very busy these last few weeks, I didn't know much about the whole terror attack thing, so I went looking myself and found the ENTIRE transcript with the word "terror" and all (no mention of a film either). What the FB poster didn't do was post the ENTIRE transcript! I'm so sick of these lying sacks of shit, so I guess I'm with Maddow in her pissedoffness.

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