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wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:03 PM Oct 2012

Got madder than I have ever been at an old friend over politics yesterday.

And of course it was on Facebook. Not sure what to do about it. I have been friends with this guy for over 20 years. I don't always think we have all that much in common, but he has always been interested in pursuing the friendship. And we have been friends for so long, it is nice to have people around who knew you way back when.

Politically he is more conservative than me, but (used to be) in a sane, interesting manner. We discuss politics ad nauseum, but respectfully. He didn't like Bush and supported Clinton in the last Dem primary. I believe he voted for Obama in the general, even if he wasn't completely happy. But in the last year or so, his Obama hatred is completely off the hook. He is way pissed about Obama's foreign policy, which I get. But he seems to think that Obama is the total anti-christ on all issues now. And remember, this is a guy who is pro-choice, pro-gay rights.

So yesterday I posted a pro-Obama GIF about how Obama supported women's rights by passing Lilly Ledbetter while Romney hired one once. And this old friend posted some bullshit from the Daily Mail about how Obama discriminates agains women in his administration. And my head exploded. I mean this old friend is basically trolling my Facebook page. This is not the first time he has done something like this. So I delete it and explain that that is not a legit source and this:

"Fucking republicans think it is ok to pass legislation that allows them to shove an ultrasound probe up my vagina (or my daughter's vagina. Or YOUR daughter's vagina) if we decide to pursue our legal right to an abortion. So you can pretty much shut your entitle male mouth about who is supporting my rights as a woman.

I am so angry I am shaking. You need to realize that for some of us there is more at stake in this election."

I told him to hide my feed if he could not restrain himself from making nasty, off topic comments anytime I mention Barack Obama. I just ignore the Gary Johnson crap he has been posting even though I don't agree. He could do me the same courtesy.

So where do I go from here? I never thought of myself as someone who would sacrifice an old friendship to political differences. But I feel really shaken by this exchange. And politics is really the main thing we talk about. I am fine with a friend having different opinions from me, but not OK with someone who is spending a lot of time on rightwing hate sites. And it looks like he does now. Anyone been down this road?

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Got madder than I have ever been at an old friend over politics yesterday. (Original Post) wildeyed Oct 2012 OP
I write people off pretty quickly. This would do it for me. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #1
I don't agree with all of Obama's foreign policy either. wildeyed Oct 2012 #7
Yes chowder66 Oct 2012 #2
Your friendship is more important than politics. sharkman25 Oct 2012 #3
Kinda AnnaLee Oct 2012 #4
My Wife And I Have Essentially Moved On From Republicans As Friends. ---- TheMastersNemesis Oct 2012 #5
I have same problem abbyjo2001 Oct 2012 #6
. beac Oct 2012 #13
I feel your anguish tk2kewl Oct 2012 #8
With my mother abelenkpe Oct 2012 #9
I'm OK with letting people go now ecstatic Oct 2012 #10
If he truly believes what he's posting, then he's really NOT your friend.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #11
I solved the issue by stop getting on facebook. There is way to much personal information on southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #12
I have been posting there less recently. wildeyed Oct 2012 #15
What I did do when I was on facebook was not talk politics. If someone mentioned politics I didn't southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #17
I have gotten more comfortable in my skin as I've gotten older - TBF Oct 2012 #14
you let it go, that's what you do grasswire Oct 2012 #16
It might sound harsh.. 99Forever Oct 2012 #18
I have a few that I do other things with. wildeyed Oct 2012 #19

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. I write people off pretty quickly. This would do it for me.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:07 PM
Oct 2012

Why is he "way pissed" about Obama's foreign policy, and why do you "get" that?

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
7. I don't agree with all of Obama's foreign policy either.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

I also don't like his education policy. But I am still a strong supporter based on other issues.

chowder66

(9,070 posts)
2. Yes
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:09 PM
Oct 2012

I have told those that have jumped off the deep end that are friends of mine this;
When you decide to stop reading and believing bullshit from any ole source and take back reason, discernment and thought of your own instead of letting strangers think for you then I will be happy to welcome you back to reality and call you friend again.

 

sharkman25

(143 posts)
3. Your friendship is more important than politics.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:09 PM
Oct 2012

I have friends on both sides and I value the friendships of both much more than any political argument. When we are sitting around grilling some burgers on the grill and enjoying each others company, well, that's more important to me than an argument over a political issue that neither he or I will solve.

AnnaLee

(1,040 posts)
4. Kinda
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:10 PM
Oct 2012

A guy I've been friends with for about 40 years started sending me those tea-party type emails that go around. I asked him not to send me this stuff. He then sent me scare story links to anti-Obama sites. I sent him the same response. Then he tried links to bad science like global warming political sites and anti-abortion sites. I wrote a strong letter this time. I haven't heard from him since. His choice. Before this we always had real discussions about our lives. I find I don't care to know his new self. So, his choice.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. My Wife And I Have Essentially Moved On From Republicans As Friends. ----
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:10 PM
Oct 2012

Some Republicans are ok as long as you don't know they are Republicans and politics never really comes up. The radical ones are too far gone to save. It is better to move on. Even though a relationship might have lasted many years, there are times when such a relationship is better ended. Of course that is a personal decision.

Each election cycle gets worse or so it seems. I wonder where we will be in the coming ones.

abbyjo2001

(7 posts)
6. I have same problem
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

Sadly I have two daughters that apparently spend all their time on Obama hate sites. They are mean, nasty, and totally off the wall with the things they believe. I can't have a conversation with someone on Facebook without them making nasty remarks. I ask them to stop it and they would not. I unfriended them. We barely speak. I blame this on fox, rush, glen beck, all these people who perpetuate hate 24 hours a day. I wish we could make them stop

beac

(9,992 posts)
13. .
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:19 PM
Oct 2012


I am so sorry your daughters have been poisoned. And that's what it i-- POISON. Rupert Mudoch, the Kochs, Rush Limbaugh and other rich criminals feeding soul-killing, reason-killing drivel to people to keep them scared and pliable and easy to reap profit from. Disgusting.


On a happier note, WELCOME to DU! We're glad to have you in on the conversation.
 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
8. I feel your anguish
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

I have a buddy I have known since the second grade (we are now both 47) who has become an off the hook wingnut over past few years.

It's heartbreaking to look at someone you love and be completely baffled by how they could sign up for the kind of repression the GOP would like to bring to women, LGBTs and the poor.

Let me know how it goes, maybe I can get some pointer from you if you figure out how to deal with it.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
9. With my mother
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:13 PM
Oct 2012

Ended up un friending her. If he doesn't press the issue you should be OK. If he keeps posting after you asked him not to then and only then un friend.
Totally understand your anger. Honestly thought we had already won the battle on womens rights and civil rights. Why republicans want to go backwards is beyond me.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
10. I'm OK with letting people go now
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:15 PM
Oct 2012

If he apologizes and wants to continue the friendship, that's fine. But if not, that's fine too. You two had your experiences and learned from each other. Not all friendships are meant to last indefinitely. One day, when someone he loves is hurt by repub legislation, he'll remember your words.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
11. If he truly believes what he's posting, then he's really NOT your friend....
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:17 PM
Oct 2012

....the world is full of much better people than this horse's ass...just move on.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
12. I solved the issue by stop getting on facebook. There is way to much personal information on
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:18 PM
Oct 2012

there. But if you stay on the best thing you can do is unfriend him.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
15. I have been posting there less recently.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:23 PM
Oct 2012

And really trying to keep my political blather to a minimum, mostly posting pictures of my dogs and the like. But it was a funny and true GIF and I feel strongly about the issue.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
17. What I did do when I was on facebook was not talk politics. If someone mentioned politics I didn't
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:29 PM
Oct 2012

respond to it. If it got nasty I didn''t say anything I just defriended them. If they asked my why I did it I told them I don't want to hear about politics. Problem solved. But honestly I just think people share way to much information on line.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
14. I have gotten more comfortable in my skin as I've gotten older -
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:22 PM
Oct 2012

but it has been slow going. It has taken me 8 years of living in Texas before I've been comfortable admitting I'm a socialist (and usually I just say democrat because that's hard enough without going further). It will likely take me longer to be upfront about my non-belief - churches are everything down here.

I would say it depends upon the relationship. I put up with a lot more from folks I've known longer and were close with at least in some point of my life. For new acquaintances I will just hide feeds if it annoys me. I've only had one discussion on my wall that became kind of uncomfortable (when my mother called one of my old friends a racist!) ... but he was a very good friend and I think my mom's wrong. I think he is in favor of limited government and we have a completely different world view - but I know he's not coming from a place of racism. He may be coming from a place of greed however ...

If this old friend is really stalking you though and not a current friend you might well want to unfriend or change your page settings so that other people can't respond to your posts.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
16. you let it go, that's what you do
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

a small price to pay for speaking freely. Unfriend the guy with the message that bigotry and propaganda have no place.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
18. It might sound harsh..
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:44 PM
Oct 2012

... but rightwingers are not my friends. They are the exact oppsite. They and those they enable have destroyed so many lives, including my own.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
19. I have a few that I do other things with.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

Mostly sports related. They know I am a screaming lib and I know what side of the fence they play on. We are all generally good humored about it. This particular instance is disturbing because this is someone who I consider a "real" friend and who was definitely not a rightwinger in the past. But more than that is the feeling that I have to walk on virtual eggs around him and that he seems to almost stalk my political posts that indicates he is going off the rails. Maybe I should talk to his wife to be certain that everything is mentally OK with him these days....

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