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reflection

(6,286 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:37 PM Oct 2012

Ohio and those damned machines

Does anyone know if there are *any* safeguards in place that weren't there in 2004? Have all the relevant parties just been spinning their wheels for 8 years? I'm seeing a lot of those graphics from the 2004 election and having flashbacks. Does anyone in the loop know if there are any independent observers that will watch the OH count or otherwise audit it?

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Ohio and those damned machines (Original Post) reflection Oct 2012 OP
If You're Worried About The Machines, Vote Absentee ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2012 #1
I'm in TN reflection Oct 2012 #3
Since '04 Diebold added a paper print-out to their machines. JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #2
That makes me feel somewhat better. Thank you so much. reflection Oct 2012 #4

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
1. If You're Worried About The Machines, Vote Absentee
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:54 PM
Oct 2012

I've been doing it ever since Jennifer Brunner made it legal to vote absentee for any reason, and I did it again this year (mailed in my ballot a week ago).

As far as "poll watchers" go, I know Democrats are going to have them out there, because I got a call from the Democratic Party asking me if I wanted to be one.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
3. I'm in TN
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:55 PM
Oct 2012

so my fate is carved in stone, but I'm obviously worried about OH due to its recent history. Thank you though.

JohnnyRingo

(18,634 posts)
2. Since '04 Diebold added a paper print-out to their machines.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:11 PM
Oct 2012

They were actually forced to do it by the 2010 election after making excuses that it wasn't technologically feasible.

Now when a vote is cast you can lift the cover over a small window on the right side and watch your ballot get printed out in real time. At the end of the day the paper roll is removed, signed by all four poll workers (2 repub & 2 Dem) and locked in a metal box to be driven to the county elections board by one Republican and one Democrat together. That paper trail is then stored for a certain number of years.

As an Ohio poll worker I'd say electronic voting is more secure than it was in 2004 in that while they still may cheat, it's much easier to get caught now. People working the local polls take their job very seriously on both sides and any cheating will have to be at the programming level, but there's still that paper trail...

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