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The researchers found that in some ways, or in some circumstances, EVs are more polluting than gas-powered vehicles. But few reporters who covered the study explained those distinctions clearly, producing short stories that portrayed EVs as an unqualified threat to the environment instead.
What tripped up many reporters was the conclusion that while the majority of all vehicles global warming potential (i.e. direct or indirect greenhouse gas emissions) comes from their use phase, EVs produce twice the warming potential of gas-powered vehicles during the production phase. For instance, a CBS station in Connecticut reported that EVs produce twice the global-warming potential overall, but thats not true. In fact, they usually counter the excesses of the production phase during the use phaseall the more so the longer theyre driven.
According to study, when powered by average European electricity, EVs have 20-24 percent less warming potential over their lifetime than gas-powered vehicles, and 12 percent less when powered by electricity made from natural gas. Its only when powered by electricity from coal that EVs have 17-27 percent more warming potential. The conclusion that the dirtiest types of electricity erase EVs advantage is similar to one reached by the Union of Concerned Scientists back in April. But then, as now, gotcha-oriented coverage belied the fact that EVs are generally better than gas-powered vehicles where global warming is concerned. [Update: The author of the UCSs April report wrote a helpful analysis of the European study that calculated that even when taking its conclusions about production into consideration, EVs are still a net positive for the climate.]
Full post: http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/electric_vehicles_versus_gas_p.php?page=all
libguard
(40 posts)Like the old coachworks. Build the chassis like an old Mercedes. Thinking even further, equip them with lifting hooks, and deposit them on trains, where your commute is relaxing, and you are lifted off, and finish your journey without even leaving your vehicle. Same with trucks. Get the cars and trucks largely off the road.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)No reason to scrap a twenty year old car. Pull the engine and transmission, replace with a new plug-in gas-electric propulsion unit and controller, lay out a series of modular battery units where they will fit, and that vehicle should have at least another twenty years service life, with minimal carbon output.
Gold Metal Flake
(13,805 posts)AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)The ones who want to vilify EVs tend to ignore the fact that they are usually charged off-peak, so while coal might be burned to generate that power, it would be burned anyway since those plants generate excess power at night. If they are being charged at peak times the power is more likely to come from natural gas, which is much cleaner than gasoline.
salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)Well, except for when they just outright lie or claim troublesome facts don't exist. Denialism. It's a way of life.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Who might be against reduced demand for imported petroleum products???
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)The internal combustion engine is technology from the 1800s. It is on it's way out.
There is a transition phase which has begun and can't be stopped.
If you don't believe me then go check out Ford's new line of vehicles. The pure electric Focus, the plug in hybrid Fusion and a full line of C-Max hybrids with a plug in version already being rolled out.
Personally I think the C-Max is going to be a hit. Estimated 47 MPG with a sticker price around $25,000 and it seats 5. I have seen a couple and they do have a slightly strange "bubble" shape to them but with 47mpg who can argue? If the Prius is just a little to small for you to go ahead and make the leap, then this just might be the vehicle for you.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)How is the range affected if you're driving on a cold rainy night, and listening to the radio? Lights, wipers, heater, and radio... do they affect the range in any noticeable way?
salvorhardin
(9,995 posts)But yes, unless the car's battery is heated, or cooled, then range could be markedly reduced in extreme temperatures.
There are ways around the extreme temperature problem, namely, keeping the battery heated or cooled so that it runs in its operating temperature sweet spot. So-called active thermal management systems for batteries, like that on the Coda Sedan, Nissan LEAF and Tesla Roadster, work to minimize the effects of efficiency-sapping temperature extremes. GigaOm, a technology news and trends blog, reported on one of the great debates within the electric vehicle battery world -- whether it's best for manufacturers to use air or liquid systems to keep temperatures in check.
Full post: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/does-extreme-weather-affect-electric-cars.htm