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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe scariest thing Romney said in the Debates.
Well maybe not the scariest but the most disturbing to me because of the implication and the people who will get benefit from such a policy.
Romney said flat out in the Debates
"every middle-income taxpayer no longer will pay any tax on interest, dividends or capital gains, no tax on your savings.
That makes life a lot easier. If youre getting interest from a bank, if youre getting a statement from a mutual fund or any other kind of investments you have, you dont have to worry about filing taxes on that, because there will be no taxes for anybody making $200,000 a year and less on your interest, dividends and capital gains."
Now he did a good job spinning it and selling it. No tax on your savings I like that idea. Not filing all those annoying forms you get from the financial institutions yeah that is great!
The Problems is the line $200,000 or less on your interests, dividends, and capital gains.
Tell me one "middle income taxpayer that will net $200,000 on interest, dividends and capital gains.
You can't because there is not one!
How can the democrats let Romney say $200,000 is a middle-income tax payer?
Interest, dividends and capital gains are profits you make from having investments. You have to have money invested and you see a return on your money if you're lucky. A good return at lets say 12% which is what they shoot for over the long term. To make $200,000 at 12% you have to have 1.7 million dollars invested.
Okay lets say no tax on your savings! Well most savings available are around 2%-3% if you're lucky. So to make $200,000 from 2% interest $10,000,000. Thats 10 millions dollars you would need to have invested in your "Savings."
This idea of a tax cut is nothing but a tax cut for the rich. He wants to give Wall Street $200,000 tax free plain and simple. He wants these individual who are multimillionaires to deduct $200,000 from their capital gains tax. Boom. Gone like that $200,000 no tax. Thanks for playing in the stock market with your multi-millions. George Bush, Mit Romney, Most of congress. Instant $200,000 deduction from your capital gains. Thank you for being part of the Multi-Millionaire club.
This is a weak point and it needs to be pointed out. He talks about no tax cuts for the wealthy Well right here is his own words a tax cut for the wealthy. And Somebody needs to tell Romney that median Income in this country is $50,000 if you're lucky.
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joycejnr
(326 posts)...just for one item, do you think they'll want to give up their deductions for second-home interest?
Geoff R. Casavant
(2,381 posts)As in, if you're total income is less than $200,000, then you won't pay taxes on your savings, dividends, etc.
But you are right, the average American is not likely to make nearly enough in that kind of income for it to really matter.
WDIM
(1,662 posts)"anybody making $200,000 a year and less on your interest, dividends and capital gains"
Making $200,000 a year on your capital gains. This is the money made from these things. Not people at the income level of $200,000. That is him saying he wants capital gains tax to be at zero for less than $200,000 dollars. That is him saying if you make $200,000 in the stock market last year you would pay no tax. If you make $500,000 you only have to pay tax on $300,000 of it.
you are wrong about total income that is not what he said. And besides even if that were the case $200,000 total income is not middle class its upper middle. When median income is 50,000 middle class is where the median income is. It would be impossible for somebody making $50,000 a year to earn $200,000 dollars in capital gains.
His numbers are outlandish and somebody needs to do a better job showing people.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)my brother text me during the debate to laugh at it. Peoples interest are netting them 1 % these days if they are lucky. Most if they have dividend income, it is from their 401 K.
Romney pissed someone off on every answer he gave during the debate. Women, poor, middle class, immigrants... it was a horrible performance if you listened to what he said. He tried to be in touch with Americans... but he can't he doesn't understand the real world of the average human in America.
MgtPA
(1,022 posts)there will be no taxes for anybody making $200,000 a year and less on your interest, dividends and capital gains -- or
there will be no taxes on your interest, dividends and capital gains for anybody making $200,000 a year and less