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Blue Belle

(5,912 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:40 PM Oct 2012

Soup Kitchen In Paul Ryan Photo-Op Faces Donor Backlash

Source: Huffington Post
By: Jason Cherkis
Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/soup-kitchen-paul-ryan-photo-donor_n_1980541.html

Soup Kitchen In Paul Ryan Photo-Op Faces Donor Backlash

In the wake of Rep. Paul Ryan's embarrassing soup kitchen photo-op last week, the organization that runs the facility tells The Huffington Post that donors have begun pulling their money out of the Youngstown, Ohio charity.

Ryan may have suffered a few late-night jokes, but the fallout for the soup kitchen appears to be far more bruising. Brian J. Antal, president of the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, confirmed that donors have begun an exodus in protest over Ryan's embarrassment. The monetary losses have been big. "It appears to be a substantial amount," Antal said. "You can rest assured there has been a substantial backlash."

Antal says he can't give an actual dollar amount. "I can't say how much [in] donations we lost," he said. "Donations are a private matter with our organization."

Antal's charity represents the kind of organization that conservative Republicans might champion. But that was before the Ryan incident went viral a few days ago. According to The Washington Post, Antal said that the moment should never have happened. He told the newspaper that the photo-op was not authorized and that the campaign had “ramrodded their way” inside.

Ryan supporters have now targeted Antal and his soup kitchen, Antal said, including making hundreds of angry phone calls. Some members of Antal's volunteer staff have had to endure the barrage as well, he said. "The sad part is a lot of [the callers] want to hide behind anonymity," he said, adding that if someone leaves their name and number he has tried to return their call. In addition to phone calls, people have posted a few choice words on the charity's Facebook wall, including statements like "I hope you lose your tax [sic] emempt status," Anyone who is thinking about donations to you should think twice" and "Shame on you Brian Antal!"


Please read the rest of the story at the link provided.

Compassionate Conservatives my ass.


To make a donation to the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, money can be sent to P.O. Box 224, Youngstown, Ohio 44501.

Web site: http://www.svdpusa.org/Donate.aspx

If there is anything else we can DU, I am open to suggestions
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Soup Kitchen In Paul Ryan Photo-Op Faces Donor Backlash (Original Post) Blue Belle Oct 2012 OP
Anyone up for making donations?? Blue Belle Oct 2012 #1
Great idea! CurtEastPoint Oct 2012 #2
I'm up for it! Any idea how we could go about it? arcane1 Oct 2012 #5
I'm not sure... Blue Belle Oct 2012 #6
The article does give some contact information for the charity... Blue Belle Oct 2012 #9
Could you use the national site? PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #13
I added your link to the OP... Blue Belle Oct 2012 #19
Its usually aligned with a Catholic church - I used to belong to SVDp sammytko Oct 2012 #35
I'm in! OffWithTheirHeads Oct 2012 #7
Ryan needs to be held accountable ecstatic Oct 2012 #8
Ryan should be making a donation and public apology Evergreen Emerald Oct 2012 #27
i like shaming the bastard barbtries Oct 2012 #44
+1000. I'm going to plan on it. closeupready Oct 2012 #24
Yes. Are you thinking one big consolidated donation, or a barrage of small ones? Matariki Oct 2012 #40
Why would Conservative donors pull their donations? Bandit Oct 2012 #45
Conservatives are pissed because .99center Oct 2012 #49
Extortion. Let Ryan pretend to give a shit about the poor and homeless, or lose TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #3
Wow - Republicans are going all a-hole Grinchy because the truth got out? Berlum Oct 2012 #4
From the article... porphyrian Oct 2012 #10
Way to go, Paulie! City Lights Oct 2012 #11
I certainly hope some SuperPAC gave them some serious coin KamaAina Oct 2012 #12
I might suggest the bean counters submit a bill to the Ryan campaign Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #14
Assholes. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #15
If Ryan had an ounce of decency he'd step up and ask people to continue donating. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #16
Here is their Facebook page: Contrary1 Oct 2012 #17
their campaign pulls some boneheaded bullshit, barbtries Oct 2012 #18
VERY Rethuglican. n/t PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #20
VERY. Because, of course, everything is always about THEM. closeupready Oct 2012 #25
Exactly what I was thinking. RiffRandell Oct 2012 #38
this reminds me of neocon foreign policy Enrique Oct 2012 #21
Very true... Blue Belle Oct 2012 #29
Be interesting to see what Ryan say or does, if anything... Contrary1 Oct 2012 #22
10$ PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #23
Fantastic! Blue Belle Oct 2012 #30
Sad and disgusting. This was my mom's favorite charity. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #26
JHC tapdancing on a pogo stick!! PD Turk Oct 2012 #28
Stay Classy, conservatives, Stay Classy Viking12 Oct 2012 #31
republicans donated to a soup kitchen? 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #32
Their donations = Tax deduction... Blue Belle Oct 2012 #34
yeah but they donate to relatives supposed charity's n stuff. 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #53
I understand... Blue Belle Oct 2012 #55
now that's something I can see republicans doing. 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #56
This is the typical outcome for the poor when under Republican attention. Fire Walk With Me Oct 2012 #33
That is sad. I wish I could help them. Whovian Oct 2012 #36
i'm not catholic but i donate rsweets Oct 2012 #37
Is that why the guy backpedaled on whether the dishes were clean or not? Matariki Oct 2012 #39
I think that is a very good guess. LisaL Oct 2012 #43
I'll be donating what i can. n/t FedUpWithIt All Oct 2012 #41
I was just on the phone with my wife PD Turk Oct 2012 #42
Kicking... Blue Belle Oct 2012 #48
thanks PD Turk Oct 2012 #50
It seems wherever those two go (Romney AND Ryan), they leave destruction in their wake Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #46
They are in the process of setting up a Paypal account per their FB page: Contrary1 Oct 2012 #47
Yes, let's Give some DU Love to St Vincent De Paul Society. Cha Oct 2012 #51
Ryan uses charity for a fraud. Charity complains. Republican goons beat up on charity. gulliver Oct 2012 #52
sad JesseJonesNYC Oct 2012 #54
Done uponit7771 Oct 2012 #57

Blue Belle

(5,912 posts)
6. I'm not sure...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:47 PM
Oct 2012

The site has organized donations before. Maybe we can keep this kicked until someone can show us how to go about it?

Blue Belle

(5,912 posts)
9. The article does give some contact information for the charity...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012
To make a donation to the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, money can be sent to P.O. Box 224, Youngstown, Ohio 44501.

I'm not sure how to get it organized through DU though.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
35. Its usually aligned with a Catholic church - I used to belong to SVDp
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:32 PM
Oct 2012

Part of the weekly mass offerings went to SVDp.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
8. Ryan needs to be held accountable
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012

They didn't ask for this. He forced this on them and then left them hanging.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
40. Yes. Are you thinking one big consolidated donation, or a barrage of small ones?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:47 PM
Oct 2012

I'm in, either way.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
45. Why would Conservative donors pull their donations?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:33 PM
Oct 2012

I could understand Liberal donors now being reluctant to donate to them but I would thing Conservatives would think it was great that Ryan could go there and "help out"...

.99center

(1,237 posts)
49. Conservatives are pissed because
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:08 PM
Oct 2012

The owner pointed out how the Romney campaign wasn't invited. I guess their mentality is "either you're with us, or against us" also I'm sure in their twisted logic the owner is responsible for Ryan getting caught washing clean dishes.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. Extortion. Let Ryan pretend to give a shit about the poor and homeless, or lose
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:44 PM
Oct 2012

all your funding--and the homeless suffer. Yeah, this is what I expect out of Republicans.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
10. From the article...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:50 PM
Oct 2012
To make a donation to the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, money can be sent to P.O. Box 224, Youngstown, Ohio 44501.


Not from the article -

The greater organization: http://www.svdpusa.org/

Stuff about St. Vincent DePaul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_de_Paul
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
12. I certainly hope some SuperPAC gave them some serious coin
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:53 PM
Oct 2012

in return for Antal walking back his statement and saying "actually, yes, there were still a few dirty dishes".

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,838 posts)
16. If Ryan had an ounce of decency he'd step up and ask people to continue donating.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:55 PM
Oct 2012

And to knock off the brown-shirt harassment.

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
18. their campaign pulls some boneheaded bullshit,
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

and people should go hungry because someone called him out on it. how republican is that

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
25. VERY. Because, of course, everything is always about THEM.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:14 PM
Oct 2012

Ayn Rand. Looking Out For Number 1. It's what they DO.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
38. Exactly what I was thinking.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:44 PM
Oct 2012

Take it out on the poor---it's hard to believe they even donated in the first place. I mean can't these people just get a job?

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
21. this reminds me of neocon foreign policy
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:08 PM
Oct 2012

they barge in uninvited, in the guise of helping, and then if any of the locals don't like it they lay waste to the place.

Blue Belle

(5,912 posts)
29. Very true...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:18 PM
Oct 2012

That's why these guys need to lose in November. I'm tired of what these assholes do in the name of politics.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
22. Be interesting to see what Ryan say or does, if anything...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:11 PM
Oct 2012

Since he likes to carry on about what a good Catholic he is.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
23. 10$
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:12 PM
Oct 2012

I wish this donation to support Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, P.O. Box 224, Youngstown, Ohio 44501, in response to recent events which appear to have hurt donations. Thank you.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
26. Sad and disgusting. This was my mom's favorite charity.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:14 PM
Oct 2012

It would still be her favorite charity if she had all her facilities about her, and she would be just as sad and appalled as I am to see what is going on here. It's the only religious-based charity I would consider giving a donation. They are a good organization, and I wish I could afford to send them a few bucks. A pox on the assholes who are cutting them off and harassing the guy who operates this soup kitchen.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
28. JHC tapdancing on a pogo stick!!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:18 PM
Oct 2012

So Ryan barges in unannounced to stage a photo op, can't be bothered to actually stay around for an hour or two and make himself useful, gets caught making an ass out of himself and it's all the fault of the charity somehow. Gawd I hate, hate, hate these damn people!!

Edit to add a soundbyte:

"Conservatives angered when the president of a Christian charity refuses to lie for their guy"

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
32. republicans donated to a soup kitchen?
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:24 PM
Oct 2012

I'll bet they got more fake calls saying they won't donate now, but never did anyway. Republicans donating to a soup kitchen? I am having trouble believing that.

Blue Belle

(5,912 posts)
34. Their donations = Tax deduction...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:28 PM
Oct 2012

You honestly have a good point, but there are incentives for people who make donations.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
53. yeah but they donate to relatives supposed charity's n stuff.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

The way they are passing laws outlawing feeding the poor, that it is just too hard for me to believe the mother fingers would donate to a soup kitchen.

Blue Belle

(5,912 posts)
55. I understand...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:31 PM
Oct 2012

I'm surprised they aren't protesting outside with signs (that are spelled incorrectly) telling these "moochers" to get a job!

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
33. This is the typical outcome for the poor when under Republican attention.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:25 PM
Oct 2012

Yelling at a soup kitchen. Vomitous. They didn't get what they want so they go on the attack, and the poor suffer.

rsweets

(307 posts)
37. i'm not catholic but i donate
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 03:41 PM
Oct 2012

and volunteer for St. Vincent De Paul Society thanksgiving dinners..
they do good work, from my experience. The suggestion that
Ryan step up and ask for donations sounds good to me ...

there are 3 catholic churches in janesville
does anyone know which one ryan is affiliated with??

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
42. I was just on the phone with my wife
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:09 PM
Oct 2012

She has been helping a local soup kitchen here for almost 30 years and she is LIVID about this. To paraphrase what she said:

" People like me and everyone else who volunteers to help feed the hungry in this country have been trying to alleviate the effects of decades of economic violence wrought by people like Paul Ryan ....people with that twisted way of thinking about poor people and their plight. Sometimes I wonder why we keep trying, but, we do, people are counting on us....they have nobody else "

(I'll exclude her string of expletives and move on to her next paraphrase)

"So this *lipless wonder* stops in to use the place for his personal political gain, takes a shit on it, gets caught and then expects the Christian man that runs the place to automatically jump up and tell a lie in his defense. I'd say it was unbelievable but nothing these assholes do shocks me anymore.....nothing."


We don't have a lot of money but she told me she has a little "mad money" she was saving up to buy a new sweater or something and asked me to look up the address to send a donation to.

God bless her that's why I love her

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
50. thanks
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:08 PM
Oct 2012

It certainly wasn't word for word but I got the broad strokes of what she was saying in there. Feeding the hungry is the cause in life that is very near and dear to her and when she read about the mess that Lyin Ryan made she just lost it.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
46. It seems wherever those two go (Romney AND Ryan), they leave destruction in their wake
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:37 PM
Oct 2012

And notice they never want to make amends? It's just off to the next campaign stop.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
47. They are in the process of setting up a Paypal account per their FB page:
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:43 PM
Oct 2012

Brian Antal

Good Afternoon. Brian J. Antal, President here. Thank You for your kind words and donations. We are currently working on setting up our Pay Pal account. Our site isn't the best as I have some volunteers working on it, so bear with us. Thanks Again!!

Brian J. Antal

Cha

(297,249 posts)
51. Yes, let's Give some DU Love to St Vincent De Paul Society.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:08 PM
Oct 2012

Shades of Pizza guy in Florida.. Scott Van Duzer's Big Apple Pizza and its negative Yelp Reviews.

THank you, Blue Belle!

gulliver

(13,181 posts)
52. Ryan uses charity for a fraud. Charity complains. Republican goons beat up on charity.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:31 PM
Oct 2012

Is that the story?

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