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Judge rules for cheerleaders in Bible banner suit
AUSTIN, Texas A judge stopped an East Texas school district on Thursday from barring cheerleaders from quoting biblical scripture on banners at high school football games, saying the policy appears to violate their free speech rights.
District Judge Steve Thomas granted an injunction requested by the Kountze High School cheerleaders allowing them to continue displaying religious-themed banners pending the outcome of a lawsuit set to go to trial next June 24, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott said. Thomas previously granted a temporary restraining order allowing the practice to continue.
School officials barred the cheerleaders from displaying banners with religious messages such as, "If God is for us, who can be against us," after the Freedom From Religion Foundation complained. The advocacy group says the messages violate the First Amendment clause barring the government - or a publicly funded school district, in this case - from establishing or endorsing a religion.
Republican Gov. Rick Perry and Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott spoke out in support of the cheerleaders on Wednesday. Perry appointed Thomas to fill a vacancy on the 356th District Court, and he is running for election to continue in the post as a Republican.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/10/18/3605889/judge-rules-for-cheerleaders-in.html#storylink=cpy
Well, it is not the school making the signs, it is the students.
I don't want to read any damned signs until we have a global meta room and juries to help block out words I don't like....
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Just curious how far these cheerleaders 1st amendment rights to religious expression extend.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)As long as it has to do with Jesus there is no limit...no other religions need apply!
FedUpWithIt All
(4,442 posts)Freedom for some is not the same as freedom for ALL.
lalalu
(1,663 posts)because he was so upset about losing their tacky banners.
dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts)As I read it, the cheerleaders chose this on their own.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)would get if the shoe was on the other foot. They'd probably be lucky if someone didn't take a shot at them, literally.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)they'll eventually throw it out. They'd rather no one have free speech rights than allow atheists to have any.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Does that shoe fit a little better?
Or Talibornagains?
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Well, "The Handmaiden's Tale" could well come true if the Dominionists get a shot at power.
Time to call these theocratic crazies out and keep them away from elected office and the public sphere as much as possible.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Fixed it for you.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Mosby
(16,315 posts)Morse vs. Frederick. 2007
dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts)The SC was really clear on that. And in Morse, the speech was promoting an illegal activity, which was partially the reason for the ruling.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Mosby
(16,315 posts)Sign was taken away and the student suspended.
Upheld by the scotus.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Its ruling was quite specific and I don't see it applying here.
Mosby
(16,315 posts)Boroff v. Van Wert City Board of Education, 240 F.3d 465 (6th Cir. 2000)
Facts:
A high school student wore a t-shirt to school bearing the name of the shock rocker Marilyn Manson. The shirt depicted a three-faced Jesus, bearing the words "See No Truth. Hear No Truth. Speak No Truth." On the back, the shirt contained the word "BELIEVE" with the letters "LIE" highlighted.
A school official told the student that the T-shirt violated the schools dress code policy, which prohibited "clothing with offensive illustrations." The school official ordered the student to either turn the shirt inside out or leave school. The student left and returned the next day with another Marilyn Manson t-shirt. He was again sent home. The student sued, claiming a violation of his First Amendment rights. A federal district court dismissed the suit. The student appealed to the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
Issue:
Whether school officials can prohibit a student from wearing t-shirts with offensive messages.
Holding:
In a 2-1 vote, a Sixth Circuit panel ruled that school officials may prohibit students from wearing clothing that is vulgar or offensive.
Reasoning:
The majority quoted the U.S. Supreme Courts decision in Fraser: "It is a highly appropriate function of public school education to prohibit the use of vulgar and offensive terms in public discourse." In addition, the court ruled that the school could prohibit student clothing which is "patently contrary to the schools educational mission."
Majority:
"The standard for reviewing the suppression of vulgar or plainly offensive speech is governed by Fraser." (Judge Harry W. Wellford)
Dissent:
The dissenting judge argued that school officials cannot forbid students from wearing t-shirts simply because they disagree with the shirts message. "In sum, the Supreme Court's First Amendment jurisprudence prohibits school officials from telling a student that he cannot wear a particular T-shirt simply because they perceive that the T-shirt is communicating a message with which they disagree." (Judge Ronald Lee Gilman)
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Seems like a pretty clear cut decision to me, the judicial system does not accept the notion that the first amend applies to everyone, including high school kids.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)Marinedem
(373 posts)The part where the cheerleaders went to the local LGBT gathering and threw acid in peoples faces was really awful.
Hyperbole is counterproductive. It trivializes real issues and makes you look silly.
LovePeacock
(225 posts)yewberry
(6,530 posts)"If God is for us, who can be against us"? Really?
How is that different than, "God loves us more than you"? What a shitty message for people who claim to be Christian to send.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)but someone else will, no doubt.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)on all points. if they aren't using my tax dollars to promote religion (and as a teacher I am almost certain the kids and parents paid for the materials) then i don't give two sh*ts what they put on their banners. as a christian i find them tacky.
obamanut2012
(26,077 posts)It wasn't just random students doing it, but students who are part of a school-sanctioned activity at a school-sanctioned sports function. A PUBLIC school.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)This ruling opens the door for minority groups to do the same thing. There's no way they're having that.
Pithlet
(25,089 posts)It should be for the reasons you stated.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)protect me from your followers!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)from if the marching band spelled out "Allah is Great!" at half-time; if the basketball team began the game with a prayer circle; or, to go back to MY elementary-school days, if students read a passage from the Bible every morning.