in Iraq, I agree with you.

'missions.' We've all had these dudes in their little white shirts and ties knock on our doors pushing their religion on us. I'd say that the worst thing they encounter in these 'missions' is maybe sore feet...and widdle red knuckles from knocking on hard doors with their tender widdle hands.

This entire RobMe family makes me

And the 'mission' Mi$$ had was in FRANCE? He had his own chef. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. Off with their heads!

Why do these Mormons think they have to go around forcing their religion on people?

The poor widdle boyz who come to our door...I really enjoy scaring them. Their eyes get as big as saucers. And I don't see how this 'mission' could in any way turn them into 'men.' They just get used to hearing, 'Go away.'

And the gall of her to think that these 'missions' are in any way the same as what our soldiers have to do endure is just INSANE.

Yes, please keep this woman talking....the Independents and Moderate Republicans will see her and flee to the Dems.

go figure.

she doesnt play the part from the White House. Same for Mitt and King Louis.

we know exactly what happened to Marie...

is free secret service protection for life.

I can think of no one who deserves it less & after looking at the jobs he stole & lives destroyed ought to need it more.

Anyone know if kids & grand kids are covered?

Bill Clinton in the last President to get SS protection for life. Of course, considering that Hilary is Sec of State, I'm sure he would have gotten it for at least ten more years, anyway.

Some Mormons might go on real missions to real places with problems, but Rmoney's family's missions are just all-expense paid vacations.

Want to see people who go on real missions? Join the PeaceCorps, otherwise shut the fuck up.

Those poor, unfortunate boys!

Good job with the rant!

I thought I felt an slight earth tremor when I was out shopping in South Philly this afternoon. It was you pounding on the keyboard.

just like dear old dad. .

the great-great niece of a veteran, and the aunt of an active duty Airman, I find the Romney family to be an affront to my patriotism, and the service my family has given to this country. How a family can be here for so long, through so many wars, and not a single veteran in the bunch, is mind boggling.

Willard and his pro war for everyone else but him mentality, and his chicken hawk, cowardly sons who claim to be serving the country by getting their dad elected from the comfort of their multiple homes and millions of dollars worth of creature comforts, are disgusting.

How do you know Mitt didn't have ancestors in their Mormon Wars against the United States of America?

have, neither her sons nor her husband, served ... I read (but did not research it because I read it on the internet, so it must be true) where no man in romney's (linear) family tree has served in the military. So avoiding service must not be a coincidence; rather, its a family value.

nt

The one thing the entire Rmoney family has believed in is that others should die in wars they support but refuse to fight in.

was in Viet Nam getting shot at constantly, at one point 1 of 2 survivors on a base camp that was totally overrun down to hand-to-hand combat with no help for 2 days, ultimately being injured for life, totally disabled, and gone way too young at age 59. I'm about to mark 5 years of widowhood at age 62. That's after 25 years of full-scale caregiving.

And she has the nerve to talk about "hard"? She equates stupid missions with combat? Her husband and 5 sons are too good to serve, but yet promote the wars for others to serve in?

I wouldn't spit on her if she was on fire. And that phoney inappropriate laugh she does all the time... let's just say I'd like to "meet" with her alone in person sometime and "discuss" it.

I'll be honest, I really don't have a true understanding about the sacrifices of war. My grandfather served in WWII in a PT boat. He saw alot of action but not that 'in your face' kind of action one gets when they're on the ground on the front line. My father was Navy but his service was between Korea & Vietnam so he lucked out in regards to serving in a war.

So being in the position I am, I think I'm the last person to think that ANYTHING I may have done in my lifetime can EVER compare to what those who have served our country have done.

Your family members served and the Navy is no picnic, so in my book your pov is 100% valid, it's clear by your words and the impulse to write them that you "get it". I can tell you that if my husband were still with us, he would've appreciated your speaking up, and thanked you for it too. Sometimes I just get weary of the constant cluelessness from all the high-profile chickenhawks, and just run out of words.

I'd be honored to be your watchout in that alley.

Care Acutely. I'd be honored for your presence too.

But it just might be pre-revolutionary...

about people who she considers of less status than her. The Mormon mission concept is nothing more than a self serving act that is a bragging point. True missionary rescue is to be done for non self gratifying reasons. An act of charity, to help lift up someone else less fortunate, is not to be used as something that someone can say, "Hey look at me. I great because I help others."

very much a "vile, wretched person who is just a horrible excuse of a human being".

Well said!

Tagg wanting to hit the President of the United States, Ann, for just being her vile self, and Mitt for being a sleazebag with an awful dye job.

I can't wait for them to fade into obscurity. That evil looking one, Josh, is said to have political aspirations. If I never see another Romney running for office, it will be too soon! The entire bunch have the charisma and charm of rattlesnakes poised to strike.

Barbara looked a bit uncomfortable thru it but now that the answer is making news it will be ok with Babs and she can almost be relevant again.

the Romney's and their kind have no right to represent the people of the U.S.

They are sickening with their lack of understanding of how people have to live and their holier than thou friggen attitude.

Gawd, even the Bush's didn't give this sense of entitlement as this pod of slime do. Laura Bush seems like a bleedin' nice next door neighbour compared to Ann the Uppity.

by virtue of her appearance on The View.

Wouldn't it be nice if we are able to write her a letter of thanks
on Nov 7th after President Obama is re-elected?

...with something like this:

'No, my sons have never served in the military so I will never truly understand that kind of fear. I'll never know what it's like to have my son sent home to me in a box. All my sons chose to do mission work overseas. I missed them terribly while they were gone, but let's be honest, Paris, France isn't Afghanistan and Leeds, England isn't Iraq. There is just no way for me to comprehend what military moms and dads go through on a daily basis.'

But, there is no compassion in that woman.

that would have been the classy response.

My guess is Ann was blindsided by that question. Whoopi is obvious about her support for Obama just as Elizabeth Hasselbeck is for her support of anything GOP. But I think it is an important question to be asked and to me it showed more than her lack of understanding about the lives of those who have served in the military and more towards her lack of caring for those who served.

...she can't really be that stupid. She has 5 sons that have never served in the military and war/national security is a major topic during this election. She had to know someone would bring it up.

Unless Mitt only lets her out of her binder to watch cartoons.

like in 2007, and it's definitely one of the items their advisors have on their radar.

I think of her as a WRETCHED creature.

Calling her a person is much too kind.

Thanks for the epic rant, can't believe I had to go all the way back to page 3 to find it (I saw the title earlier but didn't have time to read it then).

and the :kick: too

Vile, wretched, and a whole bunch of other things I can't say.

Storybook villains, both of 'em.

than most of us make in a year. What's not to like?

The woman reminds me of Barbara Bush, when she said how lucky those people were to be staying in the Astrodome (or what ever it was) after Katrina. Having Queen Ann in the white house would be a unmitigated (no put intended) disaster. I could almost see them acting like they are King and Queen of this country. When Mitt took over as governor he confiscated an elevator that went up to his office and made it his personal elevator, that no one else could use. Imagine that attitude in the White House..

"We are sorry, but the (think King) President doesn't wish to meet with anyone today.. please go away.."

Ms. Ann has some serious issues.They don't understand that their world is one of possessions. Ours is survival. When I hear their ignorant verbal skills I really just shake my head and wonder did some of these republican and wealthy really go to school??I mean you have a man running for President telling everyone he comes in contact with that Government Doesn't Create Jobs. And yet He the Mittster wants the number 1 Government Job!!!!!

hadn't been guilt-ed into marrying Williard you may see a very different person He Dumps on her as she says!! Can you imagine being married to him? What a nightmare!!!!!

Thank you, "sharp-tongued" Whoopi Goldberg!

To spread your religious preaching and sharing your self-righteousness across the planet and to tell women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. Oh, those poor little Romney boys, it must have been tough jetting around the globe, mixing with the great unwashed and then returning to the Romney mansion. These service men and women don't know how lucky they are.

Tagg Romney served in Bordeaux, France.
Matt Romney served in Paris France.
Josh Romney served in Leeds, England.
Ben Romney served in Australia.
Craig Romney served in Santiago, Chile.

If you could add a link, that would be great too.

My poor nephew got a vacay, paid for by uncle Sam, to Afganistan instead. I guess that he should have become a Mormon, it seems that their vacation spots are way better

They are not allowed to watch tv, listen to the radio, surf the internet. They are to remain completely cut off from the rest of the world except for preaching. Missions are nothing more than an opportunity for brainwashing so the young ones don't start wandering from faith or questioning any of the church's doctrines.

I have a friend who is an ex-Mormon. She told me about this practice and said now anytime missionaries come to her house, she invites them in to talk and turns on her tv to a news channel loud enough so they can't miss hearing it.

Your first line is true for boot camp also. This will also be the first year we will not see, or hear from her, on THANKSGIVING and CHRISTMAS. Oh, it will not be just us not being able to see or talk to her, her HUSBAND won't either.

She said her only free time will be WORSHIP. Since she is pretty much an agnostic, she was told that if she didn't attend SERVICES, she would get KP Duty instead. Can you belive that one? "Ok, I will go to Wiccan services then if I have to have religion".

Anyway, forget the Romney sons, imagine QUEEN ANN HERSELF enlisting in the military as, not just a single woman, but a MARRIED woman? Imagine Robme going along with that one?

My daughter has enlisted in the Air National Guard and going to Lakeland AFB.

The former AF Military Training Instructor aka Recruit Wrangler aka No Neck Monster's two cents: KP isn't punishment for non attendance. It's keeping an eye on the kiddies. Left on their own, a recruit's default is getting into trouble. Back in the Balloon Corps, when my fellow recruits were at service, I was behind the barracks scrubbing out garbage cans. BFD, it was preferable to ironing cotton cord uniforms.

Before she got sucked into religious mind warp, Queen Ann probably would have done ok at basic. Her spawn would no doubt crap out during the first quick march tour of the drill pad. Your daughter is fortunate that she's at Lackland Plane Patch this time of year. Mid summer and hot, dry and dusty is a good day.

for your girl. Tell her for me, basic is like James Thurber's definition of humor: Chaos remembered in tranquility.

the hypocrisy of the Romney men (if you can call them that).

Nine men in my immediate family served in combat in WW2, Korea, Vietnam and the Gulf war. And not a one ever took it on himself to knock on anyone else's door with some cock and bull self-righteous holier-than-thou act designed to beg for money for their cult.

Those 5 kids are still sucking tit off queen ann. A 42 year old boy child needs to get a real job after daddy fails. Can't wait to never hear that name again.

Agree, but she was not called out on her unfeeling comparison - when it counted. She has no shame.

And who names their kid, Tag? Oh, right - Trig...I think we need a DNA test to see who is the real Pit Bullshit.

I'm getting GERD over this - too much Tag-a-Mitt

My mother also had five sons. All five served in the Army and four in combat extending from Korea to Vietnam. Two were wounded and were awarded Purple Hearts, the Silver Star and Bronze Medal along with other decorations. I know that mom worried every day about us. Thank God that we all returned. When I see the Romneys I actually want to throw up. Their sons certainly take after their father. Nasty, vicious little privileged bastards. They say that eyes are the windows of the soul. Looking into Romney's eyes are like looking into the depths of hell. I really believe these people are totally without a shred of compassion for the working class and actually despise the poor as misfits that should be exterminated. It is really disappointing if Romney is the best that the Republicans can offer as their candidate for the highest office in our country.

The more the better. Maybe I'll write to Mittens and tell him how warm and wonderful she is, and how I hope to see more of her.

Because I want as many military moms and wives as possible to hear her explain how serving your (cult) religion by living in a mansion in Versaille and trying to get the French to give up wine, is somehow equal to serving your country in war, or in even in peace.

She creeps me out so I avoid her. Looking at her pictures is scary. But reading about her from a safe distance, she becomes almost pathetic.

I did not see anything that made me want to spew hate at Ann.

Who knows though, maybe it is just because I am also a very vile person who doesn't think, in spite of the way it is now promoted as the ultimate in heroism, that being part of the war machine is the greatest way to serve mankind.

In fact, whether one is firebombing Dresden, dropping napalm on a Vietnamese village or nuclear weapons on Japan, it is more like a cookbook.

You are now free to turn your three minutes of hate onto me.

Mitt actually demonstrated in favor of the Viet Nam naplam dropping, he supported the war, for others to fight. That family is heavily invested in military businesses, and has profited from every war since they got off 'Refugee Benefits' which Mitt's dad was raised on, as a result of their running from the Mexian Revolution.
That family is the worst sort of cog in the war machine, the kind that goes to Paris while others fight the wars they profit from.

and thus am not motivated to spew hatred at Ann Romney for daring to hint that perhaps there is other service to humanity than being an active part in it.

If Romney were running as a peacemaker, I would be more sympathetic. I have the impression that Mitt will eagerly send others' sons and daughters to wars he may deem expedient or necessary. He isn't operating out of pacifism, but elitism. That same elitism that permeates the entire Romney clan. It is appallingly immoral to promote wars you or your sons will never fight.

I don't doubt that one or more of her sons returned from their missions more mature and perhaps "men" from the standpoint of having had to take care of themselves, not to mention face rejection and often hostility by those they are trying to convert.

But for her to equate going on a mission to serving in our military is quite honestly, OFFENSIVE. I have not served in the military but I have the utmost respect for our men and women in uniform and I am thankful to them for their service and their sacrifices.

Some make the ultimate sacrifice by dying for their country. But just as many suffer the sacrifices of placing themselves in harms way, serving on long deployments away from family and friends, often earning less money than they could in the private sector and as a result not being able to offer their families some of the same comforts and opportunities. Our military families make huge sacrifices.

Having been raised around a lot of Mormons they do treat the sending off of their young bright-eyed missionaries as if they were going off to war and welcome them home almost as heroes.

Heaven help us if we end up with her as first lady. As much as I disliked GWB at least Laura Bush generally carried herself with comportment and dignity. The same cannot be said for what we would see from Ann Robme.

My answer to another self satisfied clueless waste of carbon and water:

On behalf of all the service men and women killed in places you never hear of; the many more who have had their bodies, minds and lives ruined by fire, steel and all manner of other shit and the rest of us who did/do our duty every weary, thankless day ...

Neither you nor your privileged spawn deserve the sacrifices endured protecting your sorry asses.

the NJ Democratic party has a limited number of people that could actually give a popular Gov. like Christie a scare. I don't agree with Mayor Booker of Newark a lot, but I think that he would have the best shot at beating Christie. Just my opinion!

They already think that they are privledged royalty. Has no clue about living a normal, middle-class life and what that entails. I'd bet she never even has looked at a price tag. Why bother? She can afford it. Charge it, it goes to the accountants. She never sees the bill.

the vitriol in you post sounds like something the Republicans do to Mrs. O. Please, don't stoop to their level. As for Whoopi, her question will give the republicans a talking point about the Democrats piling on a cancer survivor who is currently suffering from MS. If Whoopi had done some basic research she would have known that Mormons are not necessarily pacifists. Unfortunately, Ann won the point. I am a Democrat contributing to and voting for the President and other Democrats around the country. WE CANNOT ACT LIKE THE REPUBLICANS!!!!! Just as I find it offensive when those pieces of sh** go off on FLOTUS, I found your comments....excessive(?).

Don't just come down on me for this. I just think that we can do better. Democrats should be the role models for decency and fair play. As for Tagg, he can go jump in(to) the lake.

Which would have fit in the title and forced deletion.

Whoopi's question was really clever the way she innocently asked if it is against the Mormon religion to fight it war. That is what Ann is suggesting when responding that her sons served on "missions" when asked if her sons ever served in the military. Note Ann never uses the proper name (MORMON missions), in fact the Romney's never use the word Mormon--it's always "my church." In fact, in the second debate, Romney said he was a "pastor" at "his church." There are no pastors in the Mormon church. He was a fucking bishop, but didn't want to use that word to alert voters at how creepy his role was. Instead, he lied as usual. And Ann is in on the game too, repeatedly dropping the word Mormon in front "mission," giving it the aura of some sort of military operation, when in fact the Romney sons were basically sent on Mormon church-sponsored vacations to beautiful locations.

Lawrence O'Donnell did an epic take down on the Romney chicken-hawk men last night. His Rewrite segment literally had me screaming in laughter. http://www.democraticunderground.com/101769326

It's his TURN, damnit!

Per Greg Palast's latest expose, 25000 Americans were fired. The equipment was moved to China. The Romneys partnered with vulture capitalist made millions off the GM "bankruptcy." Remember what he said at the debate. He thought of the bankruptcy first, "creating jobs."

He and his spouse are MONSTERS.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/18/greg_palast_mitt_romneys_bailout_bonanza

Greg Palast: "Mitt Romney’s Bailout Bonanza: How He Made Millions from the Rescue of Detroit"

think of all the passionate, progressive women you know. Now, imagine what they could accomplish with UNLIMITED money, and UNLIMITED time to devote to their causes, what it may be. They could change the world for the better. Just think of it.
Then look at this swanky skag and she spends her time and money.

I'm a non-mormon who lives in Utah. I'm also a Vietnam Veteran. I remember during the war when all the slimy mormon kids got to avoid the draft because the draft board was made up of mormons. All us "gentiles" as they call us, went to serve our country while the little mormon boys got to go hide on their missions. I am totally disgusted by anyone who did this. It's almost treasonous. And I know a lot of Vets and parents of dead soldiers who were really pissed off by it.

The political wives aren't the candidates. God knows how much what they say is strategist drivel. We don't know if Ann Romney or Michelle Obama even want to be First Lady.

She isn't a "vile" or "wretched" person just because she equated serving her country to serving her church, nor is she vile for living a privileged life. You can disagree with that comparison, but saying she is a vile human being is way over the too.

First Ladies are part of the package when you elected the President. Being a First Lady gives them the platform to promote their agenda, something that has been done by all First Ladies in the past both republicans and democrats (Michelle Obama's is health & fitness, Laura Bush was about reading for kids).

First Ladies also tag along with their husbands (and btw this would be the same when one day we finally have a First Husband) many times when the President greets dignitaries both here in the US and overseas.

I think Obama was quite clear that his run for president was a family decision that included Michelle and the kids. If Mitt is running without Ann's approval that's even WORSE because it shows how little Mitt considers his family when pushing his political agenda.

As for serving the church, there are plenty of people who do that in this country but they do something for good like helping those in needs. Mormon missions are nothing more than spending something like a year in some fancy location where they knock on doors all day trying to convert people. The missions are hard work, that's all they do day and night, but it's to pester people about converting not actually helping anyone in need.

in harms way and possibly getting blown to pieces is comparable to Mitt going to Paris to convert people? Geez, give me a break. Ann IS a vile and wretched, totally entitled person, as is her lying asshole husband.

on edit: misspelled "asshole."

and wonder why her husband's or child's life ended in a pointless war. Or watching someone she loves deal with no legs or eyes. Anyone who says so or believes so is vile and wretched.

No, she isn't a candidate and if she doesn't want to campaign, she doesn't have to. If she chooses to make public statements, then the public can comment.

most of our marriage in the Navy -- including being deployed during Desert Storm -- and the mother of a son currently serving in the Air Force (stateside -- he has not been sent overseas yet, and due to his rate probably won't), I couldn't agree with you more.

The Romney's are a prime example of what is wrong with a majority of this nation's 1%'ers -- privileged, entitled and completely clueless when it comes to the struggles average Americans face.

Also Whoppi!

Kick & Rec.