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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:08 PM Oct 2012

You know when I think of religious missions I think 3rd world countries helping the sick and hungry..

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I think of missionaries being executed because they were in the middle of a war torn country during the revolution like the 4 Catholic Nuns who were killed back in El Salvador 1998.

Say what you will about religious missions, but many of these missions do humanitarian work in some of the most war-savaged 3rd world countries.

So when you hear about how Ann sent all 5 of her sons off on missions where they left as boys and returned men, I start to think of the hard work they did in some of the most challenging parts of this nation.



They shouldn't call these trips 'missions' call them what they are - VACATIONS. Kids who finish schooling and decide to take off a few months to backpack thru Europe or other exotic destinations.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_did_mitt_romney's_sons_go_on_their_lds_missions

Where did mitt romney's sons go on their lds missions?

Tagg Romney served in Bordeaux, France.
Matt Romney served in Paris France.
Josh Romney served in Leeds, England.
Ben Romney served in Australia.
Craig Romney served in Santiago, Chile.



REALLY?

France, England, Australia and Chile?

That's just embarrassing and hardly worth comparing not just with those who have served our country but even those who went to do actual mission work, like a family friend whose daughter went to India for 3 months to help vaccinate children in remote parts of the country.

I do want to stand corrected thanks to another DUer who has served as a Mormon. It is not like backpacking thru Europe but a strict daily regimen. But even if it is hard work it's not like serving in the military.
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
2. AND - those missions don't even do anything to help people.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:11 PM
Oct 2012

When the "missionaries" visit those countries they just go door to door like they do here, pestering people to join their goofy church. They don't bring food or medicine; they don't start schools; they don't do anything but proselytize.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
3. Trust me as one who grew up there, Leeds is exotic only in the pejorative sense
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:12 PM
Oct 2012

And far from friendly territory for doorknockers of the evangelical bent.

Perhaps not quite Kolkota, but separated only by the welfare state.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
6. Exactly.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:19 PM
Oct 2012

Yes, some tiresome doorknocking pest could get mugged in a dodgy neighborhood in England (just as they could here in the U.S.), but it's nothing like spending months or years in some remote village in Africa or India to bring impoverished people food and cholera medicine.

Rich white kids backpacking through Europe distributing religious tracts are not exactly budding Mother Teresas.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
10. BTW I just checked - there are 31,000 Mormons in France or 0.0477% of the population
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:26 PM
Oct 2012

Hell even Jehovah Witnesses have more with 131,000 followers.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
5. The only Mormon I know spent HIS 2 years being questioned weekly by the STASI !!!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:18 PM
Oct 2012

maybe the French were sick of their pensions and tired of national HC ?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
8. The friends I know who go on religious missions...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:23 PM
Oct 2012

...help a leper colony in Vietnam by constructing needed facilities and providing financial support--with no proselytizing at all.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
9. I was a Mormon missionary, believe me they are no vacation
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:24 PM
Oct 2012

I was a Mormon missionary, believe me they are no vacation. Yes they are not helping the sick and the poor (I believe 4-5 hours a week are supposed to be spent on "service," the rest of the time is preaching the gospel).

It is no vacation though, you have a very regimented routine and strict rules. Up at 6am, an hour of study by yourself, an hour with your companion and breakfast. Out the door by 9:30 am. You are not supposed to return until 9:30pm. You have to report how many contacts, commitments etc you have each week with set goals and supervision. No TV, Radio, Music (other than church music), no phone calls except one to your mom and dad twice a year. You get 1/2 a day off on Mondays to write letters and do your laundry.

Its far from a vacation.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
11. Its also far from a tour in Vietnam, or Iraq, or Afganistan.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:30 PM
Oct 2012

Or a year spent building an irrigation system in a 3rd world country.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. You are correct that is hard work
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:32 PM
Oct 2012

But who is benefiting from this service?

And it's a far cry from what people in the military are doing, especially those on active duty or what many other missions do where they actually help people.

I find it difficult that a man wants to be president who would send other people's kids to war and yet not only has he not served but would never serve and the same with the rest of his family.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
14. Regimented
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 04:48 PM
Oct 2012

Kind of like going to a school that teaches theocracy? Still nothing that compares to serving in the military...is it?

And while you were on your mission, did you have have people shooting at you or trying to blow you up?

You see your missionary work could be considered like a vacation to someone who has to live in a hole in the ground, eat their meals out of a plastic bag, carry over 100 pounds of equipment walking many miles, and then standing guard duty at night with little sleep.

Just saying...

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