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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPakistanis debate real enemy: girl-shooting Taliban or drone-firing US
The news that the Taliban shot a 14-year-old girl for speaking out against them has highlighted a major division in Pakistan over the question of which is worse: the United States or militants?
On one side are civil society members and some ethnic and religious minorities who find the attack on the girl, Malala Yousufzai, atrocious and are calling for action against the Taliban.
There are many in our valley who would not dare to name the Taliban, but she spoke against them. We cannot deny her sacrifice, says Khairullah Sina of Swat Valley, who works in the education sector and knows Malala.
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There seems to be a concerted effort to tie the Malala incident to the unrelated issue of US drone attacks in Pakistan, says Baqir Sajjad Syed, who writes on foreign affairs and defense issues for the English-language newspaper Dawn.
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"Every time there is a drone attack, innocent children and women are killed. We should also condemn that since it is equally unjust but no one is highlighting it," he says.
The US says it has no other choice than to use drones to rout out militants in areas like North Waziristan, but many Pakistanis complain that it is a violation of sovereignty and causes civilian casualties. Its an issue that is used often by right-wing Islamists to whip up anti-Americanism.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2012/1018/Pakistanis-debate-real-enemy-girl-shooting-Taliban-or-drone-firing-US
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Pakistanis debate real enemy: girl-shooting Taliban or drone-firing US (Original Post)
JRLeft
Oct 2012
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tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)1. which is worse?
Drowning puppies or drowning kittens?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)2. Drone strikes need to cease. Not just cease, but cease to exist as a program.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)6. no argument here
To me it's just taking moral relativism to the level of absurdity.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)3. Sorry, but it's definitely the Taliban. n/t
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)4. If they'd get rid of the sort of medieval asshats
who do unspeakably barbaric things like shooting teenage girls in the head for standing up for the right of females to get an education, and purge them thoroughly, the drone strikes would probably go away by themselves.
Decisively standing up, as a society, to backwards, inbred 11th century imbeciles, and stating that there is no place for them in a civilized country would improve Pakistan enormously. Not that I expect it to happen in the next umpteen years.
hack89
(39,171 posts)5. The Taliban has killed as many Pakistanis as drones - perhaps more
http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-suicide-bomber-kills-15-pakistan-113043991.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/world/asia/suicide-bomber-attacks-check-post-in-pakistan.html?_r=0
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/03/taliban_suicide_bomb_35.php
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/13/suicide-bombing-revenge-osama
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2012/0504/Taliban-suicide-bombing-in-northwestern-Pakistan-kills-at-least-19
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-24/asia/world_asia_pakistan-violence_1_pakistani-soldiers-pakistani-taliban-gilani?_s=PM:ASIA
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/05/taliban_suicide_bomb_37.php
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/07/quetta-suicide-bombing-pakistan_n_951602.html
There are many more.
The Taliban has declared war on Pakistan - which is why they gave us tacit permission and support for years. There was even a CIA drone base in Pakistan until December of last year,
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/world/asia/suicide-bomber-attacks-check-post-in-pakistan.html?_r=0
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/03/taliban_suicide_bomb_35.php
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/13/suicide-bombing-revenge-osama
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2012/0504/Taliban-suicide-bombing-in-northwestern-Pakistan-kills-at-least-19
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-24/asia/world_asia_pakistan-violence_1_pakistani-soldiers-pakistani-taliban-gilani?_s=PM:ASIA
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/05/taliban_suicide_bomb_37.php
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/07/quetta-suicide-bombing-pakistan_n_951602.html
There are many more.
The Taliban has declared war on Pakistan - which is why they gave us tacit permission and support for years. There was even a CIA drone base in Pakistan until December of last year,