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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's an interesting observation. According to Gallup, Obama usually polls better
among REGISTERED voters than LIKELY voters.In fact, Romney's recent gains (the high water mark, hopefully) are mainly among 'likely voters,' rather than actual registered voters (up seven points for likely voters vs. one point for registered voters). And just FYI, the RCP Averages use Gallup's LIKELY VOTER number, NOT their registered voter number when computing the average.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
Could it be that all this attempted voter suppression by the GOP could BACKFIRE on them, given that Obama tends to lead with people who've actually taken the trouble to REGISTER rather than just people who are 'enthusiastic' about voting?
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Romney's voters are fired up and have been for more than a year, there is no upside in their tank. The republican nominee could have been a duck, the republican base would vote for that duck. Republican efforts will bring voters off the sideline who may have sat this election out if it looked like President Obama was way ahead coming into election day.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)The Teabaggers might be fired up, but many of the other Republicans aren't. In fact, I've heard too many stories of defecting Republicans for it to be just a coincidence.
RobertSeattle
(10,896 posts)...That the voter suppression efforts would actually produce the opposite results the GOP wished.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)used an unusual way to identify likely voters, and that makes it controversial.
I think one thing pollsters do, for instance, to identify likely voters is if they voted before or usually vote. If not, it's probably a good bet that they won't find the time to vote this time.
But the Gallup poll also looks at whether they've moved recently, whether they own their home, and other things that other pollsters don't use...is what I've read.
I hope Gallup is wrong.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...Likely Voters, therefore they're assigning a larger percentage to the GOP side of the ledger. I find it that to be highly improbable knowing what's at stake in this election. I find it VERY difficult to believe that women are even in the polls given what we know of the issues.
You also have to take into effect who owns the various polls, For instance, here are some polls I find credible for the most part:
PPP (D)
NBC/Marist
SurveyUSA (Sponsored by WCMH-TV Columbus )
CNN
Columbus Dispatch
Quinnipiac/CBS/NYT
WaPo
And here are some additional polls I think are being less than honest with their polling:
Zogby * (Sponsored by Newsmax)
Gravis Marketing
Rasmussen
Pulse Opinion Research (Sponsored by Let Freedom Ring)
Wenzel Strategies (R) (Sponsored by Citizens United)
We Ask America
Also, I'm curious about the methodologies being used. What are the demographics of the people being called? What time are the calls being made? What geographic regions are being called? What's the breakdown of party affiliation? What's the breakdown between calls made to landline numbers and those made to cell-phones?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)As for questioning polls, people don't question them when the results are favorable. They only do that when the results are unfavorable. So I try not to focus on that too much. UNLESS the results don't jive with other polls, then something may be amiss.
LeftInTX
(25,363 posts)Somewhere in this recent blog is a link regarding how Gallup determines whether the potential voter is a likely voter.
[link:http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/gallup-vs-the-world/|
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I do believe that it's pretty likely at this point that Republican efforts to suppress votes and rig the election will probably at least partly backfire on them, especially given the incredible turnout we've already had with early voting, and the record amounts of funding we've raised. They may steal Ohio but they'll have to rig the vote in Virginia, Florida, and N.C. too. And even that may not work, especially not if we get a pleasant surprise like Arizona turning blue, for instance.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)As I understand the Gallup likely voter screen, you must be registered to even enter the likely voter sweepstakes. From there they narrow it down with additional questions.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)If Obama can get his voter base to the polls, he will win. If they stay home you get 2010.