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Freedomofspeech

(4,228 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:49 PM Oct 2012

Dear Ann Romney: My brother was killed in a plane crash enroute to Vietnam...

with 80 other young Airmen. They won't put their names on the Vietnam Wall because the plane crashed in the Phillipines. Please don't tell me or anyone else who lost someone to war what a struggle Mitt had as a missionary in Paris. My family never recovered.

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Dear Ann Romney: My brother was killed in a plane crash enroute to Vietnam... (Original Post) Freedomofspeech Oct 2012 OP
I'm very sorry for your family. madaboutharry Oct 2012 #1
I'm very sorry for the loss of your brother. Barack_America Oct 2012 #2
Thank you for sharing that. Care Acutely Oct 2012 #3
I thank YOU and your brother for this military service. Herlong Oct 2012 #4
So sad. I have no words.... FourScore Oct 2012 #5
I'm so sorry tavalon Oct 2012 #6
these people are so fking insulting Heather MC Oct 2012 #7
Please Accept My Sympathy And Is There Anything We Can Do..... global1 Oct 2012 #8
We have tried... Freedomofspeech Oct 2012 #10
Forgive Me For Pressing This - But Who Or What Agency Makes This Decision?...... global1 Oct 2012 #11
Every year they do a memory ceremony at the Wall strongermessage Oct 2012 #13
I would write to Jill Biden and Michelle Obama grasswire Oct 2012 #15
That would be my suggestion. We could too, if it would help Rose Siding Oct 2012 #20
Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund In Memory Application link: pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #21
My blood was boiling when I heard her talk about "service" on The View young_at_heart Oct 2012 #9
ann romney equates service to the mormon church as service to the country strongermessage Oct 2012 #12
unless her son works in a VA clinic or hospital, ANY doctor can say that they treat veterans. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #14
can you serve your country?? jumpinjoken Oct 2012 #16
no they don't Skittles Oct 2012 #19
how awful; I am so sorry for your and your family's loss renate Oct 2012 #17
. Skittles Oct 2012 #18
I am so sorry Irishonly Oct 2012 #22
I'm so sorry qanda Oct 2012 #23
Unfuggingbelievable malaise Oct 2012 #24
I am so sorry Lefta Dissenter Oct 2012 #25
My sympathies to you and your family for the loss. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #26
i'm so sorry. barbtries Oct 2012 #27
They should be on the wall KauaiK Oct 2012 #28
 

Herlong

(649 posts)
4. I thank YOU and your brother for this military service.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:56 PM
Oct 2012

Families have never been thanked enough for what happened. Republicans do America disservice to repeat this travesty over and over.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
6. I'm so sorry
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:02 AM
Oct 2012

If it makes you feel better and I'm sure it doesn't, Ann and Mitt are both sociopaths and unless their children are also sociopaths, they lived through hell as children. I was a child of a sociopath and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. They aren't human and have no access to human emotions. They fake but not always so well.

If there is anything that happened in your life that made your heart sing with joy, know that neither Ann nor Mitt have ever felt that. It's a small thing, I know.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
7. these people are so fking insulting
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:03 AM
Oct 2012

everytime they attempt to compare mitts time in france to servicing the country, I really want to pluck them in the center of there forehead

global1

(25,270 posts)
8. Please Accept My Sympathy And Is There Anything We Can Do.....
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:07 AM
Oct 2012

like petition some agency or the President or something to get the names of your brother and the other 79 airmen on the Wall? Their names should absolutely be up on that Wall with all the others lost to that senseless war. I don't care where the plane crashed - even if it crashed at takeoff on U.S. soil - their names should be on that Wall. They were being deployed to Vietnam - in my opinion and I'm sure we'll get a lot of other DU'ers here agreeing - their deaths were a direct result of that war.

Freedomofspeech

(4,228 posts)
10. We have tried...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:15 AM
Oct 2012

but nothing can be done. Thanks...I really think it's unfair. My Mother could not be honored as a Gold Star Mother, either.

global1

(25,270 posts)
11. Forgive Me For Pressing This - But Who Or What Agency Makes This Decision?......
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:19 AM
Oct 2012

and what excuse are they giving you for not putting the names up? This is just not right. Have you gone to the press with this? Have you ever tried to get any allies in the media to go to bat for these 80 airmen and make this a big issue?

Who else are they denying putting on the Wall?

strongermessage

(284 posts)
13. Every year they do a memory ceremony at the Wall
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:55 AM
Oct 2012

and recognize people who died because of issues related to the Vietnam War...my brother was honored about 7 years ago and they put their names in some book that is supposed to be available at the Wall (but it's not). I really don't know who makes the decision. Jack Murtha was our Congressman (I loved him) and we contacted him but he said nothing could be done. I think it's a darn shame. Thank you for asking, I appreciate it.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
15. I would write to Jill Biden and Michelle Obama
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:24 AM
Oct 2012

They seem to be specializing in military affairs.

Seriously.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
20. That would be my suggestion. We could too, if it would help
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:57 AM
Oct 2012

We'd need more details but I would write if the op asks.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
21. Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund In Memory Application link:
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:04 AM
Oct 2012
We are no longer accepting applications for 2012.

To have a loved one considered for the In Memory program in 2013, you must submit your application to VVMF by April 12th, 2013. Please fill out the information below. Along with the application, please upload copies of the death certificate and military records showing service in Vietnam (ie: DD214) as well as two clear photographs of the honoree.


In Memory Application 2013

In Memory honors those who died as a result of the Vietnam War but whose deaths did not fit the Department of Defense parameters for inclusion on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

2013 application at link:
http://www.vvmf.org/Inmemory_apply



young_at_heart

(3,772 posts)
9. My blood was boiling when I heard her talk about "service" on The View
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:08 AM
Oct 2012

All her boys and Mitt have "served", just like people in the military!

strongermessage

(284 posts)
12. ann romney equates service to the mormon church as service to the country
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:29 AM
Oct 2012

When discussing her chickenhawk husband and sons, ann romney said the following: "He was serving his mission. My five sons have also served their mission. None served in the military. None served in the military, but I do have one son that feels that he’s giving back to his country in a significant way where he is now a doctor, and he is taking care of veterans. So we find different ways of serving, and my five boys and my husband did serve missions, and did not serve in the military." She then added; “I sent them away boys, and they came back men.” Well guess what ann? The 80 young men that were referred to in the original post went away as boys, and never came home. Maybe, if they had gone to France to serve their churches instead of flying into a war started by wealthy men like your husband, then their families would not have to had dealt with their losses.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
14. unless her son works in a VA clinic or hospital, ANY doctor can say that they treat veterans.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:58 AM
Oct 2012

Gawd that women is deplorable.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
19. no they don't
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:35 AM
Oct 2012

and thank you for including families - I am a veteran, but I was also a "military brat" - most people have no idea what it is like to constantly move as a child, constantly changing schools. It can be very tough!

renate

(13,776 posts)
17. how awful; I am so sorry for your and your family's loss
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:56 AM
Oct 2012

How could a family ever recover from something like that? That's heartbreaking.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
18. .
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:32 AM
Oct 2012


whenever I hear someone like Ann Romney sounding clueless and offensive, I forget how much it must really hurt people like you. My sympathy.

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
22. I am so sorry
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:30 AM
Oct 2012

I hope that some of the advice given here works. Your story should be part of a national conversation. My cousin was killed before he had been in Nam two hours. His name is on the wall. Your brother's name should be also. He sure wasn't flying to Paris.

qanda

(10,422 posts)
23. I'm so sorry
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:32 PM
Oct 2012

I can only imagine that this is something from which you don't ever recover. Then when you see some chickenhawk that advocated for the war and then flew off to France to ride his bike through the countryside, it can only add insult to injury.

KauaiK

(544 posts)
28. They should be on the wall
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:46 PM
Oct 2012

I'm so sorry for your family and suggest DU start a petition on Change.Org to get their names on the wall. It is shameful that they were denied the honor. None would not have been in the Philippines had they not been en-route to Vietnam.

Ann Romney's tone deafness is breathtaking to say the least. She is the epitome of "let them eat cake". Bravo to Whoppi to pursuing the questioning.

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