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kpete

(72,022 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:37 PM Oct 2012

Tea Party Group Plans Obama Phone Bank Sabotage

Tea Party Group Plans Obama Phone Bank Sabotage

The Obama “call tool” allows supporters to make cold calls from home, but a local Florida Tea Party leader is using the phone list to pitch Romney. “Think of what we could do if 100 of us did this for an hour each day.”

Posting on the website, Meetup.com, the group's founder — Dr. Joe Magnant, a vein specialist practicing in Fort Meyers, Fla. — asked Lee912 members Thursday to use the Obama phone list to campaign for Romney.

Magnant suggests callers make the case directly for the Romney-Ryan ticket or just mark the voter as "already called" ("This will remove them from their call list," Magnant explains).
On the message board, Magnant lays out his plan, in all caps, as follows:

"If you don't feel comfortable knocking on doors, making phone calls or volunteering at a specific time or location then this might be just down your alley. You can from the comfort of your home on your computer use Obama's own call tool to fill out responses of folks on their call list without even having to talk with them. This will remove them from their call list. This is not being dishonest. You can answer neutral to the questions posed. Just get them off their call list and reduce the pool of eligible voters for them to contact. The alternative is to make the phone call and ask the question as a 'volunteer' not an Obama volunteer and make the case for a Romney/Ryan vote."


In a second post Thursday afternoon, Magnant tells group members that they shouldn't be "intimidated" by the prospect of placing calls. "I just made 25 calls or responses in less than 5 minutes on my desk top between procedures in my office," he wrote, also in all caps. "Think of what we could do if 100 of us did this for an hour each day from now until the election."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/tea-party-group-plans-obama-phone-bank-sabotage
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Tea Party Group Plans Obama Phone Bank Sabotage (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
wait, that's not illegal? librechik Oct 2012 #1
I don't think it is illegal hootinholler Oct 2012 #9
That Magnant creature is a physician. Skidmore Oct 2012 #2
Too many doctors are bottom feeders Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #13
Isn't this out and out cheating? Control-Z Oct 2012 #3
The repgnican way. If you can't win - cheat. tk2kewl Oct 2012 #6
Perhaps citizens need to rate the good "Doctor" on his ethics. IllinoisBirdWatcher Oct 2012 #4
Wonder if they could get arrested before hand for OhZone Oct 2012 #5
This is "not being dishonest"? louis-t Oct 2012 #7
Typical Conservative Contextual ethics IDoMath Oct 2012 #8
"... because we're Republicans" (n/m) William Seger Oct 2012 #12
I doubt this is illegal IDoMath Oct 2012 #10
I still say impersonating a legal voter for any reason louis-t Oct 2012 #14
His ethics makes me wonder... hootinholler Oct 2012 #11
Kickin', and rec'in', and sharin' on FB. Habibi Oct 2012 #15
"This is not dishonest"? How is it not dishonest, Dr. Magnant? Just because there's no "lying"? n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #16
You know, I want to start seeing some talk about RICO here. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #17
Doesn't Dr.Magnant Need Some DU Advertising? Dread Pirate Roberts Oct 2012 #18
Good luck with that shit Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #19

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
9. I don't think it is illegal
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:12 PM
Oct 2012

If the campaign is opening up the call rolls to anyone who goes to the site without vetting them, then I don't see how it could be illegal.

Underhanded, immoral, dirty, no good, etc, etc and etcetera, absofuckinglutely.

I wonder if the numbers are being harvested for telemarketing?

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
2. That Magnant creature is a physician.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

I know physicians who feel that their lucrative practices will be threatened by the healthcare reform measures. What it boils down to ultimately for Romney supporters is greed.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
13. Too many doctors are bottom feeders
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:39 PM
Oct 2012

The stories I could tell are hair raising. The AMA keeps driving up the cost of health care by keeping us in a constant shortage of doctors...we have fewer doctors per capita than any other industrial nation.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
3. Isn't this out and out cheating?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:43 PM
Oct 2012

Sabotage? Not to mention stealing information? Aren't these things illegal?

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
4. Perhaps citizens need to rate the good "Doctor" on his ethics.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:45 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-joseph-magnant-y469h

or here
http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Joseph_Magnant.html

Citizens can also send him some personal love here:
info@weknowveins.com

or here:
P. 239.694.VEIN (8346) F. 239.936.6272

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
7. This is "not being dishonest"?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:56 PM
Oct 2012

Voter fraud much? Attempting to impersonate an "eligible voter" is voter fraud.

 

IDoMath

(404 posts)
8. Typical Conservative Contextual ethics
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:11 PM
Oct 2012

If you haven't seen it, look for the article about abortion opponents walking off the protest line to go into abortion clinics to have abortions. "Well, that's different. These other women are all sluts."

I think this is the one;

http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/articles/anti-tales.shtml

 

IDoMath

(404 posts)
10. I doubt this is illegal
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

Dishonest, unethical, poor sportsmanship certainly but probably not illegal, at least not in a criminal sense.

This is the security risk of crowd-sourcing. The campaign *might* try to sue users who abuse the tool but there is little point in that.

Anybody got a copy of the Terms & Conditions for subscribers?

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
14. I still say impersonating a legal voter for any reason
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
Oct 2012

having to do with an election is voter fraud. Laws are continually being updated to accomodate new technology. Let's hope this gets some attention.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
11. His ethics makes me wonder...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:18 PM
Oct 2012
"Dr. Magnant is running behind today on patients," Jones wrote in an email, "as we had an emergency come in and he literally saved a man's life by detecting a blood clot that another doctor had failed to find. I am sorry but he will not be able to speak with you regarding your question. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Being a doctor is a very very busy yet rewarding job."


If he really did find a clot that was missed or if he found a "clot" that fattens his bank account.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
18. Doesn't Dr.Magnant Need Some DU Advertising?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
Oct 2012

Some publicity about his activities "between procedures" seems to be in order. It's not a problem if its the truth, right Doctor? Think if 100 of us got the word out about this Albert Schweitzer of varicose vein treatments.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. Good luck with that shit
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:25 PM
Oct 2012

most of the people on the phone lists are already Dems who plan to vote for Obama anyway

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