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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:51 PM Oct 2012

Why is Florida so close?

As a Tampa boy, I can offer these possible answers. I mention them as I think they can be overcome.

ONE :Media.. I can tell you there has been a media BLITZ, one where you cannot watch Television without seeing a Romney ad. The same is true for Radio, but TV is aimed at the people who do not listen to talk radio, the, you guessed it, the "independent voter."

TWO: The incompetence of the Florida Democratic party. It is true, we do have one of the worst, the most Blue Dog of Blue Dogs, home of Ms. weaksauce herself, Debbie Wasserman Schulz. Many of these Blue Dogs are NOT being agressive for Obama, as they know they only hold office because they have an opponent that is often a wacko tea party type. It says a lot when the most popular non republican in this state is Charlie Crist, who was willing to drill baby drill before he got ditched for VP in favor of Palin.

THREE: bitterness, on the one hand, there are still many PUMAs here, and also, there are people who wondered why the hell BP was not thrown in chains. Granted, we did have Rick Scott, but we have not seen Rick Scott's cage rattled down here. The badguys have the courts, and they know it. They are even about to fire half the Florida Supreme court so Rick Scott can put in toadies. There is a fantasy I have admittedly, where Obama appoints a special prosecutor for all the vote fraud, one Charlie Crist, who actually, unlike Holder, was a very aggressive Attorney general.

FOUR: Lack of community: Sorry, I have to say it, but many down here in Florida are too lazy and detached to get involved. Many are people that still treat Tampa as the place they retired to, or got a new job, not a community to live in. Compare Charlotte to Tampa, how many people can tell what Tampa looked like? Why? because instead of actually going to the local merchants, the GOP simply took Franklin Street, a series of derelict buildings that used to be the downtown, and made a makeshift area so that the peasants could not come in. Even GOP delegates compared it to Panem in the "hunger games." Yet, where was the outrage, where was the protest that these Cigar afficandos would not even stop at Ybor City, which has shops were Cigars are literally hand rolled? Nowhere, even though we got put on the hook for half a Million dollars.

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Why is Florida so close? (Original Post) DonCoquixote Oct 2012 OP
Thank you for sharing that flamingdem Oct 2012 #1
Florida was close in 2008 ... and that was a landslide Obama victory. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #2
+1 tessar Oct 2012 #6
Debbie W-S is a Blue Dog? banned from Kos Oct 2012 #3
I've got the same question, followed up by, since when? nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #4
since she defended her "friends" DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #9
That is true. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #10
regarding lack of community BainsBane Oct 2012 #5
Why Is ANY State Close ??? WillyT Oct 2012 #7
Florida is becoming a true Southern State? nt onehandle Oct 2012 #8
Not to mention the idiots in The Villages... HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #11
Maybe the fake polling is so rampant that no one knows what to believe any more. kayakjohnny Oct 2012 #12
Dont forget the rednecks in the panhandle and north Florida NightWatcher Oct 2012 #13

flamingdem

(39,332 posts)
1. Thank you for sharing that
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:53 PM
Oct 2012

Do you see as much enthusiasm for Obama as in 2008 in terms of canvassing or lawn signs? Is the most disputed area between Daytona and Tampa still?

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
2. Florida was close in 2008 ... and that was a landslide Obama victory.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:56 PM
Oct 2012

It's essentially THE swing state of all swing states in the sense that whomever wins it barely wins it. Even in '92, Clinton lost Florida by a small margin. So, there really is no rhyme or reason to it. I don't anticipate any candidate in the near future winning the state by a comfortable margin.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
9. since she defended her "friends"
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:03 PM
Oct 2012

Diaz-Balart and Los-Reinthen, the people who make Ayn Rand look like Trotsky.

BainsBane

(53,075 posts)
5. regarding lack of community
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:59 PM
Oct 2012

I think that is because Florida is so transient, so many people moving in and moving out. I agree there didn't seem like much of a sense of community when I lived in Palm Beach county.

Also in S Florida you have a lot of people who move there because there is no state income tax. As a result, Romney's no taxes on the rich ideas probably appeals to them.

Lastly, I don't trust election officials in Florida after my experiences there in 2000 and 2004. Theresa LaPore threw me out of the election office because I was trying to help people get registered (regardless of party). I think Obama would need at least a three point lead to get past their shenanigans, to invoke another Irish word.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. Not to mention the idiots in The Villages...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:13 PM
Oct 2012

There are a few of those same idiots in the burbs surrounding Tampa Bay area.

kayakjohnny

(5,235 posts)
12. Maybe the fake polling is so rampant that no one knows what to believe any more.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oct 2012

Including whether Florida is close at all.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
13. Dont forget the rednecks in the panhandle and north Florida
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:21 PM
Oct 2012

Plus the panhandle is also full of people who live just a little further south of Georgia, Alabama, and are neighbors with rural Mississippi and who vote like good ol southerners.

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