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Berlum

(7,044 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:53 AM Oct 2012

Republicans rally around Bishop Willard, fulfilling the Mormon White Horse Prophecy

Many Mormons are convinced Bishop Willard is here to fulfill their White Horse prophecy. Do you think most voters know about this stuff? Why doesn't the corporate media (R) talk about this stuff? It's important to Willard and the Mormons, and so it should be examined carefully.

Does America really want Bishop Willard-- a cheese-eating Francophile draft dodger -- to lead them into the Battle of Armageddon? America needs to talk about this...Now.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy

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Republicans rally around Bishop Willard, fulfilling the Mormon White Horse Prophecy (Original Post) Berlum Oct 2012 OP
Horse or jackass? nt LiberalEsto Oct 2012 #1
Horse's ass? lunatica Oct 2012 #2
Speaking of horses asses, rsweets Oct 2012 #3
Yup. definitely a horse's ass lunatica Oct 2012 #4
Interesting. And distressing. Berlum Oct 2012 #14
He's The "Great White Hope"... KharmaTrain Oct 2012 #5
Should be sitting backwards or at least side-saddle... Donkees Oct 2012 #6
Mockery is understandable. For sure. Berlum Oct 2012 #7
The Mormonism should never have been off the table. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #8
As long as it is disagreeable to you... tritsofme Oct 2012 #9
It's not a case of being "disagreeable". It's about the intent of the cults. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #11
I sure hope you don't vote in Nevada then. Harry Reid, our Senate Majoity Leader = "cult member"nt kelly1mm Oct 2012 #12
Looks like Harry Reid is pretty much of a "Jack" Mormon. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #13
Harry Reid is not a Jack Mormon - he teaches Sunday School in his ward FreeState Oct 2012 #17
I have been telling everyone I know about this (DH is from one of the oldest Mormon Families in AZ) AzDar Oct 2012 #10
I agree with you. PotatoChip Oct 2012 #15
Right wing evangelicals are pretending to be intentionally stupid, or uniformed about this Berlum Oct 2012 #18
You may be right about that. PotatoChip Oct 2012 #19
Most Mormons I know do not think he's fulfilling anything FreeState Oct 2012 #16
Is there an article in the New Yorker about this, then? Turborama Oct 2012 #20
No article that I know of, but... Berlum Oct 2012 #21

rsweets

(307 posts)
3. Speaking of horses asses,
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:09 AM
Oct 2012

the article points out that Glenn Beck
is LDS.. I was not aware of that , interesting

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. Yup. definitely a horse's ass
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:30 AM
Oct 2012

I thought Glenn Beck was some sort of Christian warrior hearing God's voice telling him what to say.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
5. He's The "Great White Hope"...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 11:35 AM
Oct 2012


Grover Nordquist put it best as all he wants is an empty vessel that signs what he wants him to. Everyone I've encountered who supports Willard do so for their own selfish reasons...and simply because he's not President Barack Obama. He's the one...for good or for bad (from their perverted perspective) that will have to do the job and they don't care how he does it. While for Willard it may be fulfilling some LDS prophesy for many others it's getting the "white" back into the white house...

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
7. Mockery is understandable. For sure.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 12:13 PM
Oct 2012

But just as the concept of Jihad is of central importance to some in the Moslem community, and is the wellspring for some of their actions in the world, in both the Mormon and the Christian realms there are likewise DEVOUT BELIEVERS who do and who will act on their BELIEFS. For better or for worse.

So in my book, mockery is not the appropriate response apocalyptic beliefs, or to destabilizing war-mongering policies and actions which arise out of Apocalyptic fervor.

GoneOffShore

(17,342 posts)
8. The Mormonism should never have been off the table.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 12:18 PM
Oct 2012

In the same way that Sarah Palin's Dominionist connections should not have been ignored.

Yes, there is "no religious test" allowed, but I'm starting to think that the beliefs of cult members should be examined more closely in the media when it comes to political office: Mormons, Scientologists, and their ilk.

GoneOffShore

(17,342 posts)
11. It's not a case of being "disagreeable". It's about the intent of the cults.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

In the case of Mormons and Dominionist that intent is total theocratic control. Scientology could well be modeled after Mormonism and is also interested in total control.

So, you're ok with theocrats in positions of power.

See the post that follows - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021592787#post10

GoneOffShore

(17,342 posts)
13. Looks like Harry Reid is pretty much of a "Jack" Mormon.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 12:29 PM
Oct 2012

From the Urban Dictionary -


A person who is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, but seldom or never practices their religion. Unlike ex-Mormons or anti-Mormons, Jack Mormons usually support the goals and beliefs of the church and maintain friendships with practicing Mormons, but for reasons of their own choose not to attend church services and activities. Jack Mormons may also indulge in activities discouraged by the church, such as drinking alcohol, smoking, and premarital sex.

FreeState

(10,584 posts)
17. Harry Reid is not a Jack Mormon - he teaches Sunday School in his ward
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:18 PM
Oct 2012

Harry Reid is not a Jack Mormon - he teaches Sunday School in his ward. One is not asked to teach theology if they are a Jack Mormon (or as mormons refer to them, "less active" members)

Link: http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2010/01/times-and-seasons-2009-mormon-of-the-year-harry-reid/

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
10. I have been telling everyone I know about this (DH is from one of the oldest Mormon Families in AZ)
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 12:21 PM
Oct 2012

They *do* believe that Der Mittster has been summoned from on high to save the country (as prophesied by Joseph Smith) to "save" the Country and establish a fuggin' Theocracy. Most of my friends, of course, had never heard of it...and became completely freaked out when I dropped this lil' Mormon nugget on them.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
15. I agree with you.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:06 PM
Oct 2012

If evangelical christians, who make up a large segment of the far right's loyal voting bloc, were more aware of how deeply involved Mitt is w/the Mormon faith, we'd be having a much easier time reelecting the President.

Having grown up in a right wing christian evangelical family, I know of which I speak. My parents' politics as far back as I can remember were (and still are) heavily influenced by their religious beliefs. And even now, with the exception of one sister who lives out of state, they all vote Republican.

But the Mormon thing is really giving them pause. To demonstrate what I mean by this, just last week at a family gathering, I dared to bring up the topic. This for me is very difficult, because as a liberal and non-churchgoer, my opinions on both politics and religion are not very well received in my family. In order to keep the peace, I learned a very long time ago to keep my mouth shut regarding these matters. But knowing how they feel about Mormons, I just couldn't resist...

During a lull in the conversation, I turned to one sister (the most rabid winger of the bunch) and asked as pleasantly as possible, "Will you be voting for the Christian or The Bishop this year?"... Not one of them had a clue as to what I was talking about, but caught off guard, she falls into my trap.

"What Bishop?" she asks suspiciously. At this point, I have everyone's full attention when I say, "You know- Romney, The Mormon Bishop" (doing my best to hide how much I was enjoying this). "He's not a Bishop, and doesn't even attend the Mormon church anymore" she says, as if it's the gospel truth. Probably heard that from some other church member... Now, I don't know if Romney still attends the Mormon church or not, but I know for a fact that he was once a Mormon Bishop, so I say so. Oh my, if looks could kill, lol!

To break the tension, my mother pipes in with, "Well, we (meaning all of them) vote on our knees, as well as in the voting booth. If what you say about Mitt is true, then we may just sit this one out, or perhaps write in Santorum."

Someone changed the subject, so that ended it, but OMG I had a very hard time holding back from LMAO. I don't know what was funnier, the "we vote on our knees" comment, or the fact that they may be forced, for the first time ever, to throw their Presidential vote away.

Sooooo, the point I'm trying to make here is this--- Right wing evangelicals are trying very hard to justify voting for a Mormon. Even to the point of convincing themselves that he's a Mormon in name only.

My bringing up the fact that he was more heavily involved in the Mormon religion than they had deluded themselves into believing is devastating to them. It was bad enough for them to learn that their beloved 'Family Values' party had nominated a Mormon Bishop as their candidate. So it's probably just as well that I never got an opportunity to mention 'The White Horse Prophecy'. I think it would have completely blown their minds, and I'm not that cruel. As much as I disagree w/them, they are my family after all.

I really hope that more right wing christian evangelicals will learn the whole truth about Romney's Mormonism by election day. I'm telling ya... if all of them were to know what we know, nothing, not even Billy Graham would be able to save Romney's campaign.

Sorry in advance about the length of this post... just had to share.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
18. Right wing evangelicals are pretending to be intentionally stupid, or uniformed about this
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:29 PM
Oct 2012

...just as they pretended to be stupid about Sen. David Vitters' extramarital diaper romps with hookers.

It does not fit with what they choose to BELIEVE (kinda like global climate change), and so they choose to pretend it is not real, or that they do not know.

Hindus have a word for that: avidia, I believe, which means "not wanting to know."

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
19. You may be right about that.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:55 PM
Oct 2012

Although, I have to say that my family members appeared to be genuinely surprised about Romney having been a Mormon Bishop.

Otoh, your point about them 'not wanting to know' makes perfect sense. It's definitely an inconvenient truth, so they go out of their way to avoid finding out about these things.

FreeState

(10,584 posts)
16. Most Mormons I know do not think he's fulfilling anything
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:13 PM
Oct 2012

Its not a prophesy, but an urban legend. Seriously, its the non-members and liberals that cant get passed his religion, and born again extremist that are focusing on it. I come from a very large LDS family that goes back to Joseph Smiths days and not a single member of my family has mentioned it to me - not even the liberal ones.

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