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By Alex Seitz-Wald
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R), who has positioned herself as a voice for the populist wing of the GOP, defended some conservatives attacks on Mitt Romney and called on the presidential candidate to provide proof that his former company, Bain Capital, created 100,000 jobs as Romney dubiously claims. Palin told Fox News host Sean Hannity last night that attacks on Romneys time at Bain from rivals like Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich are entirely fair, because the front-runner must be held accountable:
Nobody should be surprised that things about Bain Capital and maybe tax returns not being released yet and records not being as transparently provided to the public as voters deserve to see right now dont be surprised that thats all coming out today, cause it would come out as an October surprise (by Democrats) had these GOP candidates candidates not brought them out today.
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A number of conservatives have come to Romneys defense on the Bain attacks and accused Gingrich and Perry of employing left-wing attacks Rush Limbaugh even compared Gingirch Fidel Castro so Palins stance should provide the GOP candidates some cover.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/01/12/403173/palin-slams-romney-bain/
Paul Defends Mitt For Gaffe, Time Spent At Bain
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002149315
Gingrich took a different angle:
Newt Gingrich: President Obama makes it 'impossible' to talk about Bain
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/11/1053838/-Newt-Gingrich:-President-Obama-makes-it-impossible-to-talk-about-Bain-
Infighting!
FSogol
(45,488 posts)Obama vs. a bunch of immoral clowns who would prop up corporate america and prey on poor, sick and elderly Americans.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Sorry but I can't even find it within myself to find any of Palin's hypocritical "punditry" (cough) worthy of consideration. The lies this woman has told...
karynnj
(59,503 posts)They know that Kennedy used Bain to destroy Romney's campaign for Senate. They know the Democrats - especially in this anti- Wall Street time - will use it.
So, what could be happening now - there are two possibilities.
1) The conservatives are all furious that a second "moderate" in a row will get the nomination
OR
2) They are setting things up to give Romney the chance to make a speech defending capitalism (and the American way of life in shining cities on hills), detailing the companies his money helped succeed - with heart warming testimonials from people working there - and minimizing the ones that went bankrupt. Think of it as Romney's Reverend Wright speech. (Obama completely quieted almost all personal attacks with that speech - people no longer were willing to hear of Rezko, Ayres etc. They liked Obama, saw the type of man he was and refused to listen to the RW in the general election.) If done right, Romney emerges with enhanced credentials as a good businessman and makes the likely Democratic attack less deadly and it may innoculate him on other attacks.
(Imagine back in 2004 if Kerry's protesting became an issue - maybe raised by Edwards or Leiberman. Had Kerry been able to speak about where he was coming from in 1971 - and he was a genuinely honorable, courageous patriot, it may have meant that the SBVT attacking his really impeccable service record would have completely backfired.)
With Romney, what Bain did was sufficiently complicated and he might be able to make what could seem a reasonable case - after all this is the second time he is running for President and he likely worked out a response then in case it came out.
I had been thinking we were in number 1, and the self centered egotism of Gingrich and Perry was why they were doing it. Though Palin is similarly egocentric and RW, it just seems too many are going there for it not to be coordinated.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"They are setting things up to give Romney the chance to make a speech defending capitalism"
It could be a way to create the impression that Romney is being attacked by everyone, and unfairly.
Now McCain is defending Romney.
By Steve Benen
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), despite his apparent distaste for Mitt Romney, has become one of the former governors more forceful campaign surrogates. Today, the senator tackled Romneys record of mass layoffs.
These attacks on, quote, Bain Capital is really kind of anathema to everything that we believe in, McCain said. We believe in job creation, and the record of Bain Capital is to take companies that would otherwise fail and restore them to some kind of viability, and sometimes that doesnt work, but, you know, when it always works is a thing called communism, where you keep everybody in business.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57357647/john-mccain-defends-romneys-record-at-bain/
Maybe McCain was for communism before he was against it?
BuzzFeed reports on three separate instances in which McCain went after Romney on his record at Bain in 2008 they were rivals for the Republican nomination at the time when the Republican senator was apparently willing to embrace the attacks that are anathema to everything he believes.
Heres a story from late January 2008:
- more -
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/the_attacks_mccain_doesnt_reme034722.php
karynnj
(59,503 posts)I get what he is trying to say, but he really is inadvertently defining communism in a way many might like. (I assume that he is trying to imply that Obama's keeping the auto industry alive was "communism".
He really has flip flopped on Romney - though Romney did give him a gracious, earlier than it had to be concession in 2008.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)One of the women describes how painful it was for her to leave her home. A lot of people who traditionally vote Republican have lost their homes or are in the process of losing them. A lot of conservatives have lost their jobs. The accusations against Romney really hit home with these people -- and they are many in our country.
The problem isn't that capitalism is a creative problem and requires people to be flexible about work and willing to change jobs. It's that America has not dealt with the need to allow capitalism to be flexible and creative without leaving workers jobless and hopeless.
Sweden is a mixed economy that has found a way to allow its capitalists to thrive without condemning its workers into lives of insecurity and inevitable poverty.
The problem with Romney is that to do what he did, he has to be a heartless, mean man deep inside. He destroyed the lives of the workers who describe what happened to them When Romney Came To Town. I know so many people who can identify with the workers in that movie.
Change is a necessary part of a functioning capitalist economy. Cruelty toward those who lose when change happens is not. Romney's mistake is that he does not and never did understand that difference.
Romney is greed incarnate. He is not the only example of it, but that is what he is.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)I also thought the ad that Ted Kennedy used was too.
After being stunned by how strong they were and how devastating the charges, I also noticed that there were many out there - not speaking of the details - but calling them unfair - even to the degree of being swiftboating. The concern is that we need to push back now against the idea that they are unfair (and implicitly, untrue).
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)o...that`s the woman that ran away from larry the cable guy on the show "only in america"?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The original Blain company he worked for actually invested money in creating and improving businesses. It built Staples and some other successful companies. It provided jobs.
The other one, I think that was Blain Capital, is accused of being a vulture capitalism firm, buying businesses by borrowing a lot of money in the name of the business then making money for the buying company's investors on top of the borrowed money by selling the purchased company's assets, raiding the employee pension funds and reducing the numbers and wages of the employees. That is the accusation.
Watch the movie When Mitt Romney Came to Town. Whether Blain created overall more jobs than it destroyed is not really the issue. The problem is that Romney and Republicans in general do not see society as a fabric and appear to take no responsibility for the upheaval that their hunger for profits causes in the lives of others who do not have their power or economic flexibility.
If people need to be laid off in order to make progress and improve the economy, then those who lay the people off and society in general should take the responsibility for lessening the impact that the job losses have on the community and on our country.
That is what is wrong with Romney. As I see it, when he took over companies, he disregarded the human needs of the many people he fired. He is socially irresponsible in my opinion. Yet another sociopath with lots of money in my opinion.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)His biography did say that, but what I didn't know was that Staples was helped by the original company. If all or most of Bain Capital's stories were that of vulture capitalism, it is far easier to target him on this - the broader company placed Romney in the position of the first CEO for Bain Capital - so he developed that organizations' style and way of doing business.
I agree with what you said well of what this shows of what he is as a person.